Jun 26, 2022 8:18 PM
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abortion
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ButtersTheCat
People treat adopting kids the same way they treat adopting dogs - they want them when they're cute babies but not when they're older.
ironmandrew
You'll adopt my baby? How about adopting any of the 400k other children in foster care.
TheFastpaws
How about they get a punch instead?
Midgarmerc
This feels like a dystopian movie about unnaturally happy wealthy couples acting sweet in order to harvest organs or something
iusedtodream
Serious serial-killer stepford wife vibes. Eww
iztric
This sign explains that they don’t understand how difficult it is to adopt
quade
"Well, not 'we' but we're sure SOMEONE will… anyway, my religion says you can't have medical procedures that we don't understand. So there!"
protostars
FUCK THESE CHODES
kirbyvictorious
I shit you not, I once went to a foster parent information session and a woman wanted a foster kid as a friend for her son. She talked about
The foster kid as if it were a pet. Literally like “what do we do with him when my son is at his dads”
malicart
Adopt one of the 400000 kids already in the system then...
xxdayoffatexx
My nephews are in foster care and have been for over 4 years. Not a single person has attempted to adopt them. I cant due to mental illness.
conjuratio
I so hope that got called out right to their face
pigsoink
There are over 100,000 kids in the US alone that need homes. Babies are not commodities. We do not need a “domestic supply of infants”.
If you truly want a child you’d be willing to live any child you could get. That being said, the adoption process is difficult and expensive
We need to work on making it easier for these children to find a loving forever family.
hollowedskin
It's because they don't want a "damaged" kid from the foster system. Fuck these people.
yallmfsneedjesus
Dont be so quick to judge. They may have tried/be trying. Adopting through the foster system is a long and rigorous process. Years.
albertawings30001
So they want to adopt a non white, mentally and/or physically disabled child and can't find one in their state? Really? Very Christian of th
Kagenical
*White baby
sirmixanaverageamount
They'll adopt a baby that will get them attention for being white saviors too, as long as it's perfectly healthy and attractive
CuileannDhu
Healthy white baby
olafthrig
Ehh not even that, about 200k white kids (out of over 400k) in foster care now, they ain't adopting shit.
creamyonions
Also gotta be a farm-fresh baby. They don't want one that has been started by someone else.
MCNewYorkLives
What about the kids left motherless bc the mom wasn't allowed an abortion for a nonviable pregnancy that put her life at risk? Them too?
Gonna also adopt ALL the babies? Because there are about 1M abortions a year...so we got 1, what about the others?
SeanBeanJovi
Well once you deduct all the pregnant people who opt for suicide then the ones who are murdered by their SOs who don't want them pregnant...
GuestChrist
Don't the replacement theory types understand that when you force white women to give birth you're also forcing every demographic you hate?
chewballs
That's a feature not a flaw, as some asshat US politician pointed out "the maternal death rate isn't as bad if you don't count black women"
So by forcing poor women that can't afford healthcare to give birth safely you are mostly killing black & other minority groups
newsguycraigevans
The cruelty is the point
I guess the bastards do know what they're doing then.
Yep it's ethnic cleansing without having to admit that's what you are doing... unless you say the quiet part out loud like Bill Cassidy did
NunyaBNess1
Deaths aside, black women are going to be overpoliced and over-sentenced for getting abortions too, and felons can't vote.
trippingthelightfantastic
Smidge204
This couple should not, under no circumstances, be allowed to abuse a child into becoming yet another crazy christian authoritarian.
Bigblackdick69
As child who was adopted into the cca you have described, I can't begin to tell you how much I wish I was aborted instead
Shamorza
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for violence but right now I have a primordial urge to wipe that grin off their faces with a spiked bludgeon.
Scahrossar
Can I help? Pretty please?!
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Any person who wants to force another person to give birth, so that they can take the baby, should be barred from ever having a baby. You /1
have to be completely fucked in the head to think that's acceptable. /2
GNiko
Need to find one with just the right colour to match their interior deco.
StephenStrangeMD
I initially read that as “inferior decor”. Makes the same point
wetqueef
I remember before the HS paper got water boarded for good, somebody’s parents talking about how happy they had been to find a “white baby”
2/2 to adopt. Jfc
DumbShitIsMyTrigger
Also size, heard a lot of adoption stories that went south because the kid got fat
mrtweeter04
Yikes
putcleverusernamehere
You know it's true right?
[deleted]
Dinkleburgg
Pretty much my ex’s story word for word. They grew up hating their adoptive parents because they were a “fix it” baby for a failing marriage
ProppaGanda
And then there is the industry of surrogate women in the Global South, used as breeding stock for rich white people in the West.
Honestly, fascism doesn't create any new horrors, it just brings the exploitation of the peripheries to the metropoly.
Churlish1
Wow. Thanks for that.
thefuzziestofbutts
50 shades of white?
whitefoxkei
There's white, off-white, eggshell, vanilla, vanilla cream, bone white, Winter Mood, daisy, snow, ivory, alabaster, #FFF8DC...
JiffyGee
Oh no can’t have anything but plain old ultra pure white. Anything else is “sullied” by other races.
Corvidqueen
My cousin is a drug user and cannot keep her children. There are literally people lining up to take her children as she gives birth 1/
She's had 5 kids (2 of which are adopted into the family). They want them straight out of the womb, mother not naming them and no imprinting
She IS a brood mare to them. And she's too dumb to see she's fallen into a system that wants her babies but doesn't care for her life. 3/
The adopters get to "save the poor drug babies" and leave my cousin to suffer the health effects and don't even try to persuade her to 4/
Get her tubes tied or anything. 5
Lawohki
"Cause no one else would let us....."
EverNotRelevant
Giving a baby up for adoption is an alternative to PARENTHOOD, not pregnancy.
CailinAmaideach
I don't just not want kids - I don't fucking want to go through pregnancy
gotamachinehead
I’m 8 months pregnant and I am never doing this again. I couldn’t imagine how badly this would suck if I didn’t want to be doing this. 1/
I barely want to be doing this and I very carefully planned and tried for this baby. Pregnancy is very, very hard and you should only do 2/
it if you really want to do it. 3/3
I wish you all the best!! And thank you ❤
doublejubean
Some (wrongly) think the longer a child is in the system the more work they will be. Truth is ALL Children /
Children coming from the foster system have alot of issues that need to dealt with ongoing throughout their lives. It does take extra care
/ are work and worth it.
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
Absolutely. All children are work and worthy of love. But to pretend that children with trauma/abuse aren’t more likely to require special
care does them and potential adoptive families a disservice. When we were starting the foster process the social workers spent a lot of time
making sure we were aware of, and able and willing to deal with, the potential for special needs and behavioral issues so that we were ready
and to minimize the likelihood that kids would be placed and sent back.
BootsDusty
roboticKittenTamer
Do you happen to have the source for this?
6313326
Looks like this site: https://www.ccainstitute.org/resources/fact-sheets
Awesome, thanks!
BaconAlmighty
US DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH its right there at the top. Links to PDF from .gov https://www.childrensrights.org/newsroom/fact-sheets/foster-care/
TheGhostofElizabethShue
MrStealUrChange
How can they not see the OBVIOUS confessions is what they're saying out loud.
GuitarBobMonterey
Sanctimonius hypocrites, making themselves 'feel' helpful.
wlfman
If only they could rub 2 neurons together and actually register the shame and idiocy they're parroting. They just can't. They're too stupid.
WeDontDeserveGoldens
“The message.” Ok.
therealalansmithee
It’s always Do as I say, not do as I do
belongsinamuseum
I knew a priest who made people do as he said, AND do as he did.
Like2Fox
This video is the most amazing
Kalarix
Who's the interviewer?
Nalianna
Justin Trudeau.
Can't remember his name but the group is in the corner there, The Good Liars. They're great at this stuff.
StarryNightsInCanada
Who is this guy? He does great videos but no clue who he is
LiamPhoto
It literally says in the corner
GoliathSkittles
The Good Liars, I can't remember their names but its two guys that go around to political events and do this stuff.
GreyKnightTemplar666
It's so fucking disgusting the hypocrisy sitting under that banner.
Frozenspokes
They aren't reflective enough to see their own hypocrisy.
jayman0123
They are, they just don't care. They think, "whores should have to live with their mistakes." Because they didn't sleep around when they 1/
Were younger so shy should anyone else get to. Or maybe they did and this is self hatred.
SitDownAndStudy
"We weren't able to adopt." She's either on the wrong side of the issue or at the wrong protest altogether.
She also probably never actually tried
ZoidbergIsGreat
Adoption is quite expensive and many agencies will only give children to traditional nuclear families
Kingstonboy
My coworker and his wife did not qualify for adoption in Canada, (+300K income) too old had adopt in Ethiopia. Cost 50K This is what /2
This is what hte Supreme Court is against, importing "brown" adoptees. "Domestic supply of adoptees"
MagicDollHag
I hate this timeline so much, man.
So, you're saying she's too shitty to get a husband?
Yes. And that adoption agencies are using babies as cash cows as their first priority
Sonicschilidogs
Also, fuck people who say "of my own" when talking about kids. If your a bio parent, adoptive parent, step parent, guardian, etc they ARE
Snooj
It was nice of him to ask her to clarify after she said "her own" and funny how all she did was repeat herself.
thatiscomedygoldrightthere
A thousand times this. These people have no idea how toxic they are.
lrateyourrig
Buddy, I have to ask: how do you think chili dogs are eaten?
My username is a reference to the song Jack and Diane
Suckin' on chilli dog outside the Tastee Freez; Diane sitting on Jacky's lap; Got his hands between her knees; Jack he says;
"Hey, Diane, let's run off behind a shady tree; Dribble off those Bobby Brooks; Let me do what I please"
Got it got it
YOUR OWN KIDS.
0grish
As the adoptive parent of two, YUP!
kojenk
Adoption agencies are making bank and lobbied a lot for this decision.
so gross....
FellaWithUmbrella
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/05/posts-misattribute-phrase-domestic-supply-of-infants-in-draft-opinion-on-abortion/
amismenow
opi098514
To be fair. He most likely is quoting the below source.
PolyTheWicked
Note that it mentions “infants” a year or younger. There are thousands of older kids in the system, but these pricks don’t want them.
GoldenBrownApples
I get why, it takes a very special person to take on older kids with way more problems. But I also feel like more people should try.
They should definitely try if they’re going to support an abortion ban.
I can't shake the ads from my childhood. "You don't have to be perfect to be the perfect parent." Just trying is worth so much.
PirateOne
That phrase made it into the final draft (somewhere around page 40).
szepasszony
It was in the footnotes, not the actual draft, I think it was a quote of a source. Why he used that as a source is another question...
You could be right. I’m not rereading 200 pages to find it.
The draft is 98 pages long, I used the search function to find the phrase. It is a footnote on page 34:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21835435-scotus-initial-draft
FeChefImgur
From what I understand adoption is quite a difficult process to go through, takes many years and lots of $$ ?
sjpace76
Took three years and cost my friends $30K. They only have one because they couldn't go through it again.
Yes. Which is why so many like this couple turn to private adoptions which are quick if you find someoneand baby can go from hospital home.
Private adoptions are expensive ($45kish), foster to adopt us generally free. HOWEVER the goal is always family reunification which can be
lengthy and understandably traumatic. There are children ready for immediate adoption but they’re likely older and likely to need special
care for history of trauma, abuse and/or neglect, and sometimes other special needs.
BitchinBotanist
This
FiftyShadesOfArugula
They want to window-shop for a desperate pregnant teen with the right background. White ofc, middle class, no drug addiction etc. Instead...
of adopting an actual existing child in need, they'd rather help talk a kid into wrecking her body & having a kid that didn't need to exist.
That is, if they're looking to adopt at all and this isn't just christian virtue signaling for social media likes
suiseiseki
If these assholes cared they would have already adopted the countless kids already born and in need of a home.
LlamaLlamaQuack
But their family lineage is undesirable /s
Clockworkdancerobot
Worse, they would have allowed gays to adopt who were fighting to form the families the right said they were destroying.
secretagentdoubleobeaver
They don't want a kid. They want a baby
HaveYouEverEverFletLikeThis
Oh no they won't because they're black
Endonae
Kid is not the same as baby. There are waiting lists for babies and people pay tens of thousands for surrogates.
twaldma2
Maybe they have?
imemmental
I vote that all babies now forced to live because of the abortion ban be sent directly to this couple’s house
FoamingToad
And to minimise suffering, they should be delivered via trebuchet.
FatBastardVegetarian
Easier to hold a sign and pretend.
QuickGoogleSearch
I also wouldn't want to trust strangers to raise a baby I was forced to give up due to no abortion access and current life circumstances. (1
Bc that's what is happening. Remove abortion. Force to carry to term. Unable to take care of baby so forced to adopt out to those (2)
more fortunate. And the kicker, maybe the birth parents WANTED that baby. (3)
Dankking
Word!!!
The hoops to jump through are INSANE to adopt through the foster care system. Its waaaay easier to do a private adoption if you findsomeone.
Mentok
Seems like there should be hoops to take possession of another human?
TickerishLicorice
Bc private adoptions are almost entirely unregulated. You just need ~45 k to buy a baby. Did I say buy? I meant fees. Yes, only broker fees.
And most kids in foster care are not up for adoption for many, years because parental rights take a long time to terminate.
MoonPieTown
It takes a special person to raise foster kids. I don't blame people that acknowledge it's too much stress for them or if it's not a fit.
It's definitely not easy.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
"But we don't want an older one. We want a puppy...I mean baby"
We run a business that the government gives us money to house children. The children must flow!!!!!! I mean spice
I actually don’t run a business. That was me pretending to be a republican
SmurfEggs
My cousin is infertile and they wanted to adopt to which I get it you want to "be a mom from the start" but these kids need you not 1/2
Just the brand new babies in the world 2/2
idiotcube
And we don't it to have any disabilities, or be too difficult, or too ugly...
nangke
"Too difficult"?
AnathemaNoreh
Have trauma, behavioral quirks, or have complicated legal and (god forbid) emotional ties to their biological relatives
MissAizea
Brand new babies can still have trauma (from the womb) which can manifest with learning difficulties and emotional regulation issues
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5624542/
FelixTheAnimator
Good ole crack baby myth. Ya know they disproved that?
imabigasstree
Stress changes both mother and baby at a genetic/molecular level
Literally has nothing to do with drugs, high levels of stress in the mother negatively impacts her baby's development.
ButtersTheCat
People treat adopting kids the same way they treat adopting dogs - they want them when they're cute babies but not when they're older.
ironmandrew
You'll adopt my baby? How about adopting any of the 400k other children in foster care.
TheFastpaws
How about they get a punch instead?
Midgarmerc
This feels like a dystopian movie about unnaturally happy wealthy couples acting sweet in order to harvest organs or something
iusedtodream
Serious serial-killer stepford wife vibes. Eww
iztric
This sign explains that they don’t understand how difficult it is to adopt
quade
"Well, not 'we' but we're sure SOMEONE will… anyway, my religion says you can't have medical procedures that we don't understand. So there!"
protostars
FUCK THESE CHODES
kirbyvictorious
I shit you not, I once went to a foster parent information session and a woman wanted a foster kid as a friend for her son. She talked about
kirbyvictorious
The foster kid as if it were a pet. Literally like “what do we do with him when my son is at his dads”
malicart
Adopt one of the 400000 kids already in the system then...
xxdayoffatexx
My nephews are in foster care and have been for over 4 years. Not a single person has attempted to adopt them. I cant due to mental illness.
conjuratio
I so hope that got called out right to their face
pigsoink
There are over 100,000 kids in the US alone that need homes. Babies are not commodities. We do not need a “domestic supply of infants”.
pigsoink
If you truly want a child you’d be willing to live any child you could get. That being said, the adoption process is difficult and expensive
pigsoink
We need to work on making it easier for these children to find a loving forever family.
hollowedskin
It's because they don't want a "damaged" kid from the foster system. Fuck these people.
yallmfsneedjesus
Dont be so quick to judge. They may have tried/be trying. Adopting through the foster system is a long and rigorous process. Years.
albertawings30001
So they want to adopt a non white, mentally and/or physically disabled child and can't find one in their state? Really? Very Christian of th
Kagenical
*White baby
sirmixanaverageamount
They'll adopt a baby that will get them attention for being white saviors too, as long as it's perfectly healthy and attractive
CuileannDhu
Healthy white baby
olafthrig
Ehh not even that, about 200k white kids (out of over 400k) in foster care now, they ain't adopting shit.
creamyonions
Also gotta be a farm-fresh baby. They don't want one that has been started by someone else.
MCNewYorkLives
What about the kids left motherless bc the mom wasn't allowed an abortion for a nonviable pregnancy that put her life at risk? Them too?
MCNewYorkLives
Gonna also adopt ALL the babies? Because there are about 1M abortions a year...so we got 1, what about the others?
SeanBeanJovi
Well once you deduct all the pregnant people who opt for suicide then the ones who are murdered by their SOs who don't want them pregnant...
GuestChrist
Don't the replacement theory types understand that when you force white women to give birth you're also forcing every demographic you hate?
chewballs
That's a feature not a flaw, as some asshat US politician pointed out "the maternal death rate isn't as bad if you don't count black women"
chewballs
So by forcing poor women that can't afford healthcare to give birth safely you are mostly killing black & other minority groups
newsguycraigevans
The cruelty is the point
GuestChrist
I guess the bastards do know what they're doing then.
chewballs
Yep it's ethnic cleansing without having to admit that's what you are doing... unless you say the quiet part out loud like Bill Cassidy did
NunyaBNess1
Deaths aside, black women are going to be overpoliced and over-sentenced for getting abortions too, and felons can't vote.
trippingthelightfantastic
Smidge204
This couple should not, under no circumstances, be allowed to abuse a child into becoming yet another crazy christian authoritarian.
Bigblackdick69
As child who was adopted into the cca you have described, I can't begin to tell you how much I wish I was aborted instead
Shamorza
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for violence but right now I have a primordial urge to wipe that grin off their faces with a spiked bludgeon.
Scahrossar
Can I help? Pretty please?!
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Any person who wants to force another person to give birth, so that they can take the baby, should be barred from ever having a baby. You /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
have to be completely fucked in the head to think that's acceptable. /2
GNiko
Need to find one with just the right colour to match their interior deco.
StephenStrangeMD
I initially read that as “inferior decor”. Makes the same point
wetqueef
I remember before the HS paper got water boarded for good, somebody’s parents talking about how happy they had been to find a “white baby”
wetqueef
2/2 to adopt. Jfc
DumbShitIsMyTrigger
Also size, heard a lot of adoption stories that went south because the kid got fat
mrtweeter04
Yikes
putcleverusernamehere
You know it's true right?
[deleted]
[deleted]
Dinkleburgg
Pretty much my ex’s story word for word. They grew up hating their adoptive parents because they were a “fix it” baby for a failing marriage
ProppaGanda
And then there is the industry of surrogate women in the Global South, used as breeding stock for rich white people in the West.
ProppaGanda
Honestly, fascism doesn't create any new horrors, it just brings the exploitation of the peripheries to the metropoly.
Churlish1
Wow. Thanks for that.
thefuzziestofbutts
50 shades of white?
whitefoxkei
There's white, off-white, eggshell, vanilla, vanilla cream, bone white, Winter Mood, daisy, snow, ivory, alabaster, #FFF8DC...
JiffyGee
Oh no can’t have anything but plain old ultra pure white. Anything else is “sullied” by other races.
Corvidqueen
My cousin is a drug user and cannot keep her children. There are literally people lining up to take her children as she gives birth 1/
Corvidqueen
She's had 5 kids (2 of which are adopted into the family). They want them straight out of the womb, mother not naming them and no imprinting
Corvidqueen
She IS a brood mare to them. And she's too dumb to see she's fallen into a system that wants her babies but doesn't care for her life. 3/
Corvidqueen
The adopters get to "save the poor drug babies" and leave my cousin to suffer the health effects and don't even try to persuade her to 4/
Corvidqueen
Get her tubes tied or anything. 5
Lawohki
"Cause no one else would let us....."
EverNotRelevant
Giving a baby up for adoption is an alternative to PARENTHOOD, not pregnancy.
CailinAmaideach
CailinAmaideach
I don't just not want kids - I don't fucking want to go through pregnancy
gotamachinehead
I’m 8 months pregnant and I am never doing this again. I couldn’t imagine how badly this would suck if I didn’t want to be doing this. 1/
gotamachinehead
I barely want to be doing this and I very carefully planned and tried for this baby. Pregnancy is very, very hard and you should only do 2/
gotamachinehead
it if you really want to do it. 3/3
CailinAmaideach
I wish you all the best!! And thank you ❤
doublejubean
Some (wrongly) think the longer a child is in the system the more work they will be. Truth is ALL Children /
yallmfsneedjesus
Children coming from the foster system have alot of issues that need to dealt with ongoing throughout their lives. It does take extra care
doublejubean
/ are work and worth it.
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
Absolutely. All children are work and worthy of love. But to pretend that children with trauma/abuse aren’t more likely to require special
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
care does them and potential adoptive families a disservice. When we were starting the foster process the social workers spent a lot of time
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
making sure we were aware of, and able and willing to deal with, the potential for special needs and behavioral issues so that we were ready
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
and to minimize the likelihood that kids would be placed and sent back.
BootsDusty
roboticKittenTamer
Do you happen to have the source for this?
6313326
Looks like this site: https://www.ccainstitute.org/resources/fact-sheets
roboticKittenTamer
Awesome, thanks!
BaconAlmighty
US DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH its right there at the top. Links to PDF from .gov https://www.childrensrights.org/newsroom/fact-sheets/foster-care/
TheGhostofElizabethShue
MrStealUrChange
How can they not see the OBVIOUS confessions is what they're saying out loud.
GuitarBobMonterey
Sanctimonius hypocrites, making themselves 'feel' helpful.
wlfman
If only they could rub 2 neurons together and actually register the shame and idiocy they're parroting. They just can't. They're too stupid.
WeDontDeserveGoldens
“The message.” Ok.
therealalansmithee
It’s always Do as I say, not do as I do
belongsinamuseum
I knew a priest who made people do as he said, AND do as he did.
Like2Fox
This video is the most amazing
Kalarix
Who's the interviewer?
Nalianna
Justin Trudeau.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Can't remember his name but the group is in the corner there, The Good Liars. They're great at this stuff.
StarryNightsInCanada
Who is this guy? He does great videos but no clue who he is
LiamPhoto
It literally says in the corner
GoliathSkittles
The Good Liars, I can't remember their names but its two guys that go around to political events and do this stuff.
GreyKnightTemplar666
It's so fucking disgusting the hypocrisy sitting under that banner.
Frozenspokes
They aren't reflective enough to see their own hypocrisy.
jayman0123
They are, they just don't care. They think, "whores should have to live with their mistakes." Because they didn't sleep around when they 1/
jayman0123
Were younger so shy should anyone else get to. Or maybe they did and this is self hatred.
SitDownAndStudy
"We weren't able to adopt." She's either on the wrong side of the issue or at the wrong protest altogether.
Midgarmerc
She also probably never actually tried
ZoidbergIsGreat
Adoption is quite expensive and many agencies will only give children to traditional nuclear families
Kingstonboy
My coworker and his wife did not qualify for adoption in Canada, (+300K income) too old had adopt in Ethiopia. Cost 50K This is what /2
Kingstonboy
This is what hte Supreme Court is against, importing "brown" adoptees. "Domestic supply of adoptees"
MagicDollHag
I hate this timeline so much, man.
Nalianna
So, you're saying she's too shitty to get a husband?
ZoidbergIsGreat
Yes. And that adoption agencies are using babies as cash cows as their first priority
Sonicschilidogs
Also, fuck people who say "of my own" when talking about kids. If your a bio parent, adoptive parent, step parent, guardian, etc they ARE
Snooj
It was nice of him to ask her to clarify after she said "her own" and funny how all she did was repeat herself.
thatiscomedygoldrightthere
A thousand times this. These people have no idea how toxic they are.
lrateyourrig
Buddy, I have to ask: how do you think chili dogs are eaten?
Sonicschilidogs
My username is a reference to the song Jack and Diane
Nalianna
Suckin' on chilli dog outside the Tastee Freez; Diane sitting on Jacky's lap; Got his hands between her knees; Jack he says;
Nalianna
"Hey, Diane, let's run off behind a shady tree; Dribble off those Bobby Brooks; Let me do what I please"
lrateyourrig
Got it got it
Sonicschilidogs
YOUR OWN KIDS.
0grish
As the adoptive parent of two, YUP!
trippingthelightfantastic
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kojenk
Adoption agencies are making bank and lobbied a lot for this decision.
whitefoxkei
so gross....
FellaWithUmbrella
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/05/posts-misattribute-phrase-domestic-supply-of-infants-in-draft-opinion-on-abortion/
amismenow
opi098514
To be fair. He most likely is quoting the below source.
PolyTheWicked
Note that it mentions “infants” a year or younger. There are thousands of older kids in the system, but these pricks don’t want them.
GoldenBrownApples
I get why, it takes a very special person to take on older kids with way more problems. But I also feel like more people should try.
PolyTheWicked
They should definitely try if they’re going to support an abortion ban.
GoldenBrownApples
I can't shake the ads from my childhood. "You don't have to be perfect to be the perfect parent." Just trying is worth so much.
PirateOne
That phrase made it into the final draft (somewhere around page 40).
szepasszony
It was in the footnotes, not the actual draft, I think it was a quote of a source. Why he used that as a source is another question...
PirateOne
You could be right. I’m not rereading 200 pages to find it.
szepasszony
The draft is 98 pages long, I used the search function to find the phrase. It is a footnote on page 34:
szepasszony
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21835435-scotus-initial-draft
FeChefImgur
From what I understand adoption is quite a difficult process to go through, takes many years and lots of $$ ?
sjpace76
Took three years and cost my friends $30K. They only have one because they couldn't go through it again.
yallmfsneedjesus
Yes. Which is why so many like this couple turn to private adoptions which are quick if you find someoneand baby can go from hospital home.
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
Private adoptions are expensive ($45kish), foster to adopt us generally free. HOWEVER the goal is always family reunification which can be
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lengthy and understandably traumatic. There are children ready for immediate adoption but they’re likely older and likely to need special
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
care for history of trauma, abuse and/or neglect, and sometimes other special needs.
BitchinBotanist
This
FiftyShadesOfArugula
They want to window-shop for a desperate pregnant teen with the right background. White ofc, middle class, no drug addiction etc. Instead...
FiftyShadesOfArugula
of adopting an actual existing child in need, they'd rather help talk a kid into wrecking her body & having a kid that didn't need to exist.
FiftyShadesOfArugula
That is, if they're looking to adopt at all and this isn't just christian virtue signaling for social media likes
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suiseiseki
If these assholes cared they would have already adopted the countless kids already born and in need of a home.
LlamaLlamaQuack
But their family lineage is undesirable /s
Clockworkdancerobot
Worse, they would have allowed gays to adopt who were fighting to form the families the right said they were destroying.
SitDownAndStudy
secretagentdoubleobeaver
They don't want a kid. They want a baby
HaveYouEverEverFletLikeThis
Oh no they won't because they're black
Endonae
Kid is not the same as baby. There are waiting lists for babies and people pay tens of thousands for surrogates.
twaldma2
Maybe they have?
imemmental
I vote that all babies now forced to live because of the abortion ban be sent directly to this couple’s house
FoamingToad
And to minimise suffering, they should be delivered via trebuchet.
FatBastardVegetarian
Easier to hold a sign and pretend.
QuickGoogleSearch
I also wouldn't want to trust strangers to raise a baby I was forced to give up due to no abortion access and current life circumstances. (1
QuickGoogleSearch
Bc that's what is happening. Remove abortion. Force to carry to term. Unable to take care of baby so forced to adopt out to those (2)
QuickGoogleSearch
more fortunate. And the kicker, maybe the birth parents WANTED that baby. (3)
Dankking
Word!!!
yallmfsneedjesus
The hoops to jump through are INSANE to adopt through the foster care system. Its waaaay easier to do a private adoption if you findsomeone.
Mentok
Seems like there should be hoops to take possession of another human?
TickerishLicorice
Bc private adoptions are almost entirely unregulated. You just need ~45 k to buy a baby. Did I say buy? I meant fees. Yes, only broker fees.
yallmfsneedjesus
And most kids in foster care are not up for adoption for many, years because parental rights take a long time to terminate.
MoonPieTown
It takes a special person to raise foster kids. I don't blame people that acknowledge it's too much stress for them or if it's not a fit.
QuickGoogleSearch
It's definitely not easy.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
"But we don't want an older one. We want a puppy...I mean baby"
Dankking
We run a business that the government gives us money to house children. The children must flow!!!!!! I mean spice
Dankking
I actually don’t run a business. That was me pretending to be a republican
SmurfEggs
My cousin is infertile and they wanted to adopt to which I get it you want to "be a mom from the start" but these kids need you not 1/2
SmurfEggs
Just the brand new babies in the world 2/2
idiotcube
And we don't it to have any disabilities, or be too difficult, or too ugly...
nangke
"Too difficult"?
AnathemaNoreh
Have trauma, behavioral quirks, or have complicated legal and (god forbid) emotional ties to their biological relatives
MissAizea
Brand new babies can still have trauma (from the womb) which can manifest with learning difficulties and emotional regulation issues
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
MissAizea
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5624542/
FelixTheAnimator
Good ole crack baby myth. Ya know they disproved that?
MissAizea
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5624542/
imabigasstree
Stress changes both mother and baby at a genetic/molecular level
MissAizea
Literally has nothing to do with drugs, high levels of stress in the mother negatively impacts her baby's development.