I heard a commentator the other day in passing mention that the lecturer was "trans but I don't think that's germane" and I thought to myself... That's THE ONLY THING that is germane to this story.
But she's still stupid. Her essay was poorly written garbage that failed to cite evidence. This dumb bitch thinks she's going to get into medical school? She literally couldn't get into the high school I graduated from. You know what that makes her? The Albert Einstein of Oklahoma.
An essay like that would have been laughed out of almost every academic setting on this planet. It's just america where belief can beat science and they call the suppression of knowledge freedom of speech.
The essay didn't even reply to the study, as far as I can see. "Gender norms" doesn't necessarily have to even include the recognition of any biological facts, just social effects
> In a response to the essay, the instructor said Fulnecky's assignment "does not answer the questions for the assignment, contradicts itself, heavily uses personal ideology over empirical evidence in a scientific class, and is at times offensive..."
This is called a self-fulfilled prophecy of persecution. Examples: 1. Mormon and Jehovah Witness missionaries being sent out to face rejection to reaffirm their only place is within the safety of the cult. 2. Performing a task poorly on purpose so you can reject that task or avoid it later. 3. Having wildly violent and murderous thoughts and beliefs, then being upset when people disagree with you. 4. Not bathing, then being upset when people avoid you.
Funny part: even if the assignment had been "Use your religious doctrine to show what parts of science conflict" she would still have gotten a zero. Even apologetics would have given her arguments an F.
You mean white-wing morons have discovered that the grift gets them more success than honestly engaging with the world, so when they see a way to get famous they abandon all other plans and just triple down on being a horrible little shit while claiming to be the victim in it all? Can't imagine where they got the idea that acting like that would get them ahead in life... /s (also, I did notice the Freudian slip on "right wing" but it was still accidentally perfect, so I'm leaving it)
I feel this was more an instance of paving the way for “my religious beliefs are just as valid as your science even if my beliefs are completely wrong on the matter” in academia. After all, religion assists the oppressors while knowledge assists the oppressed.
Not all of us are here by choice :( This is another part of the divide the people plan. An amount of Oklahomans hate this but we are the minority, but we exist and sometimes writing off a whole state alienates an amount of people.
I grew up in Oklahoma moving around it before I was taken to the east coast with my mum. They are a special kind of evil. The kind that serves you pie to your face but then will stab you in the back the moment you look away. The kind of Christians that get together to make hate groups while claiming god saves. Defunding education while taking money left to pay super attendants ludicrous salaries while teachers starve. I can keep going but it is a state that if you can? You leave.
The people around here are almost 100% in favor of trump. It's wild. Everyone broke as fuck, suicides are through the roof, drugs and alcohol dependancy are a way of life here.
And they repeat catch phrases and sound bytes to defend their ignorance.
Better to just lift off and nuke the entire state from orbit. It's the only way to be sure ...
Fucked us up last year. My wife made a birthday cake for one of her coworkers...her first "watermelon" cake. It looked like a real half watermelon. XD
The week following the 20something year old mother who ordered it killed herself.
That will be the only watermelon cake my wife will ever make. :( Young lady left behind a small child who will sure as hell remember the last birthday they had their mommy.
It was written with the grammar level of a grade 2 student, and had statements such as "I think that...". That's all that was needed to give it a zero. Then referencing the Bible as a factual source. Yes, it was a setup, but any university that accepted that essay with anything more than a "Were you high when you wrote this?" is not a real university
Also, she was supposed to read and review a specific article, which obviously she didn't do. The fact that she was the daughter of a right-wing politician purposely taking a gender studies class from a trans professor proves that it was a setup from day one.
A stunt like that wouldn't even be a blip here in Sweden. She would fail, no one would care and no one would even have known about it (except some angry Swedish Democrats i bet)
Sadly the US has an enormous right-wing grievance machine, carefully tuned to generate and elevate nonsense like this to keep the most ignorant and hateful among us too angry to see how they're being manipulated. They throw stunts like this at the wall constantly, and enough of them stick that we never have a moment's peace.
The problem is she didn't even earn a 64 with what she wrote she literally did not follow the curriculum. Most professors have a breakdown of what they're looking for in the paper and she didn't hit any of them
I was a TA at a very highly regarded university globally. I would have been roasted over coals if I gave that paper a C. There was NOTHING in that paper that would be considered of any merit (content, adherence to requirements, citations). So it's a zero.
I hate how the narrative was "it's a free speech issue" -- bitch no it isn't, you wrote a shit page with shit opinions to a real world class. It got zero because it earned zero. That's not about free speech, essays aren't open topic. It's like if I failed an algebra test for writing in chemical formulas for food from my imaginary friend's universe. It's fiction, it's bad, it doesn't address the assignment, the zero is relevant and your rights aren't in context here.
yes it is. for them. cuse "free speech" carries the connotation that their bullshit is of equal value to a professional opinion. and thats important to them as they know they are dumb fucks, but had no real ground to stand on for their bullshit. free speech does that for them , does not matter if thats not what free speech means, but it does to them, and thats all that matters.
yeah when they free speech they do not really mean free speech. Have you ever seen how they respond to criticism? They hate free speech. The free speech in their heads is "I should be able to say whatever I want, wherever I want, and it should be illegal not to agree with me."
The closest references i saw to the Bible were the part beginning, "In Genesis, God says that it is not good for man to be alone..." and, "The Bible says that our lives are not our own..." but she didn't cite the verses that say that or any other part, so even if it were true, it's not properly sourced.
2 pages and all I got was that she loves some dude named God and thinks that no one should question him. There’s nearly zero reference to the article she is writing on. What the hell is she even talking about / supposed to be talking about? It’s just a bad paper in general. It’s more of a rant about the Bible and how she feels about the Bible. It’s not about an article she read.
It’s a document that a lot of people take seriously. As such, properly referencing it in support of your own opinion would have some value at least.
In a somewhat similar example, if someone is writing a paper on economics, they would reference the opinion papers of prominent economists because a lot of people would take those opinions as having authority on the subject at hand.
Yeah, like. That's that big thing. It was a research paper, where sources were not optional. She could've written the most incisive thing ever put to page and still failed, because it's a *research paper* and not doing your citations usually fails those.
Citing the bible isn't even an issue. There are very clear rules for how to do it. If a text from the bible is relevant to your paper, it is absolutely academically ok to cite it. Studying Theology, Comparative Religion-Sciences, Sociology, History......
This story is propaganda from start to finish and the media plays along without questioning it at all.
People need to say this more to people's faces. Australia kinda has their bogan problem sorted with this very rule. Ireland keeps its cunts in check the same way.
More people need to tell cunts they're bein' cunts until they stop being cunts.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Of course it was.
lostwalllet
Rump will make her the new Education Secretary
CrumpetsWithHoneyAreCrumpetsWithBeeVomit
I heard a commentator the other day in passing mention that the lecturer was "trans but I don't think that's germane" and I thought to myself... That's THE ONLY THING that is germane to this story.
Poopoopeepeevagina
Only in maga world can you get praised for failing
BlackHoleSon01
But she's still stupid. Her essay was poorly written garbage that failed to cite evidence.
This dumb bitch thinks she's going to get into medical school? She literally couldn't get into the high school I graduated from.
You know what that makes her? The Albert Einstein of Oklahoma.
LuminoZero
I challenge anybody to name me a single Republican in America that wouldn't make the world a better place if they died tomorrow.
OrkenMork
What a bunch of troglodyte looking people!
Capybellie
An essay like that would have been laughed out of almost every academic setting on this planet.
It's just america where belief can beat science and they call the suppression of knowledge freedom of speech.
The essay didn't even reply to the study, as far as I can see.
"Gender norms" doesn't necessarily have to even include the recognition of any biological facts, just social effects
hiddenminotaur
I just don’t get it. I would be too embarrassed to stand up and announce to the world how dumb I am.
TanithRosenbaum
Context from yesterday: /gallery/oklahoma-psychology-student-failed-research-paper-not-meeting-criteria-of-citing-evidence-wrote-about-her-religious-feelings-instead-y76xDzx
And yea it starts making sense, looking back at the video yesterday and how she speaks like a seasoned politician, I bet she's been prepped/media-trained beforehand. Either way, yea, all of this smells of being planned in advance.
OperatorWay
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/university-oklahoma-instructor-on-leave-failing-bible-essay-multiple-genders/
> In a response to the essay, the instructor said Fulnecky's assignment "does not answer the questions for the assignment, contradicts itself, heavily uses personal ideology over empirical evidence in a scientific class, and is at times offensive..."
awholelotofnothin
This is called a self-fulfilled prophecy of persecution. Examples: 1. Mormon and Jehovah Witness missionaries being sent out to face rejection to reaffirm their only place is within the safety of the cult. 2. Performing a task poorly on purpose so you can reject that task or avoid it later. 3. Having wildly violent and murderous thoughts and beliefs, then being upset when people disagree with you. 4. Not bathing, then being upset when people avoid you.
Snooj
Please note that she did not cite the Bible. She cited her beliefs that were based on the Bible.
SpartaWolf117
Makes me think of how much I want to live in any other timeline
Unfortunate500
Funny part: even if the assignment had been "Use your religious doctrine to show what parts of science conflict" she would still have gotten a zero. Even apologetics would have given her arguments an F.
quietwalker
She needs to be kicked in the head with a steel boot, and her mom and all the enablers too.
Frenchgeek
She already has serious brain damage.
leperoutcastunclean
She needs terminal brain damage.
lackinglife
So someone bent over backwards to try and make their own version of that "gods not dead" movie
Navrodel
You mean white-wing morons have discovered that the grift gets them more success than honestly engaging with the world, so when they see a way to get famous they abandon all other plans and just triple down on being a horrible little shit while claiming to be the victim in it all?
Can't imagine where they got the idea that acting like that would get them ahead in life... /s
(also, I did notice the Freudian slip on "right wing" but it was still accidentally perfect, so I'm leaving it)
zeacorzeppelin10
They invent the situation to be offended so their racism is the solution.
66gent
I feel this was more an instance of paving the way for “my religious beliefs are just as valid as your science even if my beliefs are completely wrong on the matter” in academia. After all, religion assists the oppressors while knowledge assists the oppressed.
RichardPenne
Celebrating stupidity....
ImYourWifesBoyfriend
There are no more brain cells left in Oklahoma.
clarkWhogotsanity
We can only hope people start to question any degree from Oklahoma
PopeBruce
Not all of us are here by choice :( This is another part of the divide the people plan. An amount of Oklahomans hate this but we are the minority, but we exist and sometimes writing off a whole state alienates an amount of people.
keyblader1985
I like to think I'm one of them. But I truly wish I were elsewhere.
GloveFullaVaseline
We are not far. Come on in.
ontarioOT
Conservatism. Not even once.
spattr
Was Riley Gates the hack tua girl?
CaldariBob
In a way...
iamgnat
No, she was the swimmer that got pissy about tying a trans woman for FIFTH place.

FaeVikingPrincess
can we stop saying she cited the bible because she didn't
thundercactus
Would it have made it better, or worse? lol
DorkJedi
maybe better, she would have gotten 1 point for proper citation.
NKato
The propagandists who played up this "incident" are the ones saying it.
AShartInTheWind
True. I've read the paper, it didn't cite anything.
AntaNce
You poor thing. I hope your recovery is quick and full.
cambriago13
Oklahoma is not OK.
neo154
Never was
Dracology
I'm so glad my trans friend is out of there. It didn't leave her in a great spot to move out but holy fuck that state is a shithole.
DamnThursdays
*America*. America is not OK.
djhash
Statey are you OK? Are you OK? Are you OK Statey?
TheFastpaws
I grew up in Oklahoma moving around it before I was taken to the east coast with my mum. They are a special kind of evil. The kind that serves you pie to your face but then will stab you in the back the moment you look away. The kind of Christians that get together to make hate groups while claiming god saves. Defunding education while taking money left to pay super attendants ludicrous salaries while teachers starve. I can keep going but it is a state that if you can? You leave.
StillScreamingIntoTheVoid
I once heard that there are more astronauts from Oklahoma than any other state. They're so desperate to get away they keep leaving the planet.
xerolf
Lahoma
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1d3g1bDI3cGZ3cWNrc2RlY3YwdDhvODJhaW11dmZjMDBhMXh3Z2d2OCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/VZ0F6702VrfIA/200w.webp
opus68
harthram
Texas' hat.
Aimlockbelch
Oxygen and potassium is, though, but no one educated in Oklahoma would understand that.
poppinfresh1988
So glad to be out of that cesspool.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
OK not OK.
nullbr
Unknownhost7
The people around here are almost 100% in favor of trump. It's wild. Everyone broke as fuck, suicides are through the roof, drugs and alcohol dependancy are a way of life here.
And they repeat catch phrases and sound bytes to defend their ignorance.
Better to just lift off and nuke the entire state from orbit. It's the only way to be sure ...
stayme
Maybe trade it to Putin
LamarTrillington
I enjoy the idea of Trump supporters with "through the roof" suicide rates.
Unknownhost7
Fucked us up last year. My wife made a birthday cake for one of her coworkers...her first "watermelon" cake. It looked like a real half watermelon. XD
The week following the 20something year old mother who ordered it killed herself.
That will be the only watermelon cake my wife will ever make. :(
Young lady left behind a small child who will sure as hell remember the last birthday they had their mommy.
...this shit fucks me up man :(
lindabelchersfirstcousin
klausvonlichtenstein
Fun fact! It was all so Texas could own slaves! Booo, Texas. Boooooo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_36%C2%B030%E2%80%B2_north
hortoSuperHero
Yep. Texans fought Mexico for slaves and gave up territory to enter the union as a slave state.
airbreather
Texas, who seceded so they could keep owning slaves. TWICE. Remember the Alamo, indeed.
Puppies717
Im
FindingInterestingStuffs
8+3 definitely equals GOB. I'd challenge the school board.
Redbum
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YXd4aGx6bWhtOG8wYTV4bTI4MXd0dTVyMnA3bTB5cDgxOTJtNWFtOCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/A0FGCbbooHe1y/200w.webp
witkop
6-6 equals America is also spot on
Toqom
Nah, needs the other 6
woozlewoozle
Did he sleep in his suit?
JustFeedMePieDammit
...or with?
bobbing4snapples
I think it's just ill-fitting. It's probably hard to find a good tailor when you hate gays.😂
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Who fucking cares? Comment on the ridiculousness of this other non issue that’s being manufactured.
heartlandthunder
They need a younger, hotter, dumber boebert with less baggage.
Meetgeorgejetson4510
Yes, but is she still “handy”?
SalmySwims
It would be a stretch to say she's hotter with that 5head
4etherling
Her upper torso is two of her heads tall.
lifeisadadjoke
It was written with the grammar level of a grade 2 student, and had statements such as "I think that...". That's all that was needed to give it a zero. Then referencing the Bible as a factual source. Yes, it was a setup, but any university that accepted that essay with anything more than a "Were you high when you wrote this?" is not a real university
JustFeedMePieDammit
I'm sure she feels great about her participation trophy though
arlow54
It was written with the grammar level of the president.
Shaodyn
Also, she was supposed to read and review a specific article, which obviously she didn't do. The fact that she was the daughter of a right-wing politician purposely taking a gender studies class from a trans professor proves that it was a setup from day one.
Shaodyn
They're probably going to use this as an excuse to get rid of gender studies classes altogether.
SideBoobsWillGetYouBanned
A stunt like that wouldn't even be a blip here in Sweden. She would fail, no one would care and no one would even have known about it (except some angry Swedish Democrats i bet)
LtRooney
Sadly the US has an enormous right-wing grievance machine, carefully tuned to generate and elevate nonsense like this to keep the most ignorant and hateful among us too angry to see how they're being manipulated. They throw stunts like this at the wall constantly, and enough of them stick that we never have a moment's peace.
Youareincorrectsir
Only 3 angry blast from the past white guys on flashback. The rest with atleast kindergarten level of experience or above would not care.
SideBoobsWillGetYouBanned
I'm so surprised it gets so much coverage over I the US
Stinkybuttpants
If professor gave her a 64% none of this would happen.
dontrike
You should read it and see it wasn't even that good.
FermentTheRich3000
It wasn't worth 64%
naomiMoonBeast
The problem is she didn't even earn a 64 with what she wrote she literally did not follow the curriculum. Most professors have a breakdown of what they're looking for in the paper and she didn't hit any of them
Stinkybuttpants
Understood, but what a fantastic way to troll her
LinguisticBitch
If she did her assignment this wouldn’t have happened.
lifeisadadjoke
I was a TA at a very highly regarded university globally. I would have been roasted over coals if I gave that paper a C. There was NOTHING in that paper that would be considered of any merit (content, adherence to requirements, citations). So it's a zero.
eathotdog
She's not a 1st grader
fubizdaddie
I hate how the narrative was "it's a free speech issue" -- bitch no it isn't, you wrote a shit page with shit opinions to a real world class. It got zero because it earned zero. That's not about free speech, essays aren't open topic. It's like if I failed an algebra test for writing in chemical formulas for food from my imaginary friend's universe. It's fiction, it's bad, it doesn't address the assignment, the zero is relevant and your rights aren't in context here.
rshini
It's not just shit opinions, it completely failed the Rubic - lot of "I think" statements, poor grammar, and no actual citations.
WagonOfSolidMonekys
yes it is. for them. cuse "free speech" carries the connotation that their bullshit is of equal value to a professional opinion. and thats important to them as they know they are dumb fucks, but had no real ground to stand on for their bullshit. free speech does that for them , does not matter if thats not what free speech means, but it does to them, and thats all that matters.
channelranger
yeah when they free speech they do not really mean free speech. Have you ever seen how they respond to criticism? They hate free speech. The free speech in their heads is "I should be able to say whatever I want, wherever I want, and it should be illegal not to agree with me."
AShartInTheWind
She didn't even reference the Bible in the "essay." I've read it, it made NO references at all and was just a bunch of opinions and baseless claims.
PrecogFrogOnALog
The closest references i saw to the Bible were the part beginning, "In Genesis, God says that it is not good for man to be alone..." and, "The Bible says that our lives are not our own..." but she didn't cite the verses that say that or any other part, so even if it were true, it's not properly sourced.
Snooj
Link plz.
FermentTheRich3000
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qxnVi_yaJ-Fb9u1-A1Vy2vQT3Aiw8Nix/preview
Snooj
That's weird, I thought she was an adult and not a 12 year old.
prosper020
2 pages and all I got was that she loves some dude named God and thinks that no one should question him. There’s nearly zero reference to the article she is writing on. What the hell is she even talking about / supposed to be talking about? It’s just a bad paper in general. It’s more of a rant about the Bible and how she feels about the Bible. It’s not about an article she read.
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IfIOnlyHadAName
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qxnVi_yaJ-Fb9u1-A1Vy2vQT3Aiw8Nix/preview
Apparently there are none.
FermentTheRich3000
Scientific research.
keebs63
Literally anything. She didn't cite anything. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero.
Rips4w
Please tell me you were genuinely curious. I'm trying to assume better of people and not immediately consider you a stupid piece of shit.
Allrighty
Gender studies papers.
almostAyear
for all I know, the bible is a bunch of opinions and baseless claims.
airbreather
HoW dARe YoU sO bEsMiRcH ThE wOrD oF gOd?!
Thornaxe
It’s a document that a lot of people take seriously. As such, properly referencing it in support of your own opinion would have some value at least.
In a somewhat similar example, if someone is writing a paper on economics, they would reference the opinion papers of prominent economists because a lot of people would take those opinions as having authority on the subject at hand.
yifin
That's the part that gets me. She never once actually cites the bible
channelranger
Yeah, like. That's that big thing. It was a research paper, where sources were not optional. She could've written the most incisive thing ever put to page and still failed, because it's a *research paper* and not doing your citations usually fails those.
Capybellie
Citing the bible isn't even an issue. There are very clear rules for how to do it.
If a text from the bible is relevant to your paper, it is absolutely academically ok to cite it.
Studying Theology, Comparative Religion-Sciences, Sociology, History......
This story is propaganda from start to finish and the media plays along without questioning it at all.
beez428
What a cunt
lezgetfukkinreal
Words right out of my mouth, what a cunt
GeorgeCostabaplaps
People need to say this more to people's faces. Australia kinda has their bogan problem sorted with this very rule. Ireland keeps its cunts in check the same way.
More people need to tell cunts they're bein' cunts until they stop being cunts.
beez428
Bring the cunt here and I will tell the cunt it is being a cunt. Right before I tell it the curb tastes like Jesus' dong.
GeorgeCostabaplaps
Damn right