After our anonymous survey, I was called into hr (she's very nice) to ask why my anwsers were so different from everyone. I told her very plainly "I was honest" I then asked how she knew it was mine.
Our employee survey was conducted months ago. The day after it was done they announced that "all the employees wanted more AI tools", and launched some sad, awful "AI" "training" app.
But oddly, they still haven't released any of the results of the survey other than that obvious and stupid lie.
It's almost like everyone at my company hates it there and are getting very vocal about it.
Had a director spend 2 hrs in a department meeting trying to find out who gave her the 1 star in a survey. 2 hours of trying to find "who" instead of finding "why". When I (and several others) decided to leave that job, our exit surveys burnt her at the stake. Didn't make any difference though. She blew so much smoke at her bosses they though she could do no wrong.
The advice I got on these is to be honest, but professional. The "anonymous" part is like anonymity in therapy - it only applies until you say something that worries somebody.
Bonus: A neutral professional tone with no slang can make it harder to tell who you are from speech.
It is never anonymous. Always a lie and never for your benefit. HR departments are there to protect Employers never to protect employees. Team building is Grooming and manipulation.
As IT who once was tasked to make one of those. Boss said “make it annon, but track who responded to get everyone” which with 0 extra budget is, hard. But I did it. I made entirely non-anonymous, aggregated the results myself, the delated individual responses. so what the boss saw was entirely annon. for some reason he didn’t like that….
We've got this going on at work right now. Scan a QR code to fill out an "anonymous" survey. Fuck that. Probably get some Spyware uploaded to my phone. Besides, the local management team knows what I think of them.
"The survey is completely anonymous and 100% voluntary." And then they know exactly who has and hasn't done the survey, and constantly pester anyone who chooses not to take it.
They're not though. I get why people think that, but not only is it possible to do that it's also really very simple to implement. It's all dependent on how the survey system is created.
The link can be tied to email to see if you completed the survey without retaining the data on when you completed it. That's just a table with your email, unique URL, and a boolean "has completed survey" flag. That also prevents you from submitting the survey twice. 1/2
Then there's a separate table that's just the answers for each question. No unique URL, no email, no timestamps.
When you complete the survey it sends two submissions. One to the first table that's just your URL and the flag saying you completed the survey. And the second one goes to the second table with just your answers.
I can't speak for all companies to ensure they're actually doing that (they probably aren't), but it's piss-easy to make a survey work like that from a technical standpoint
Yeah there’s no hiding at all small company. But even at a bigger one it’s the cross tabs that’ll get you. He didn’t realize they’d be showing comparing results across sections of the survey and with seemingly innocuous data like years of experience.
Quick trip use to have houly employees go around and ask about the problems other hourly employees faced. A friend of mine had to be that person one time. He was excited because every employee hated the kitchens when they started that. He said they will do away with those. Now every Qt has one here. We are the home of QT.
Same. I got let go after 8 years, same as everyone else. Didn't make any difference other than my manager constantly remarking that my "scores" in the surveys were the lowest in the company. I worked at bungie. You tell me if I was right seeing how things ended up there...
Never any issues from the general employee survey. I did get called out over an IT Services survey I *thought* was anonymous, mostly due to suggesting their ticketing system needed to be taken out back and shot.
The surveys don't mean anything, they're just more stupid nonsense from business school, and no manager anywhere is capable enough of independent reasoning to ignore stupid shit that they were taught.
Had a boss (who was actually the CISO) tell me NOT to be anonymous once, because he wanted everyone to know it was me that said it. Told me not to worry, he had my back. And he was right. CEO even mentioned it once in passing...called me "tactically brutal."
Yeah, the one time I spoke kind of openly on my anonymous survey (basically complaining about normal stuff, nothing crazy), a month later my contract which was supposed to be one signature away from being renewed suddenly wasn't. I did learn my lesson though - guys, NEVER fill in those surveys.
No but all this happened during covid times and it really wasn't the best time to look for another job. (Plus, I'll never be 100% sure the no-renovation was a direct result of the survey, but I did learn the lesson nonetheless.)
Our surveys would never ever EVER touch managers. I've also found embedded email addresses and other tracking shit in them before. I've directly told them repeatedly that if they want honest feedback it needs to be actually anonymous. No one gives a fuck. It's for show.
We have surveys like that, except the login and password are the same within departments. So dpt 1 has this login/password, dpt 2 has that login/password. That does help keeping answers anonymous. No department is small enough where an individual can be "held accountable" by the suits.
Ehh, it depends on if they ask demographics. Age, sex, and marital status can narrow it down a lot. We had a guy get caught by that (granted, he was also the only male over 50 that was unmarried)
There's nothing like that in our surveys. It's all work place related. Nothing personal at all. You just use the generic login and answer questions about work. We do them once a year. That doesn't stop the suits from saying we "misunderstand" the questions when the results aren't to their liking, but there is no way they could possibly single out anyone. It can be done, if there's any interest in actually keeping it anonymous.
Why would they ever need to poll demographics when HR already has all that data and can easily compile reports based off of it? That's a solid nope survey in my opinion.
Exactly how ours was set up. Log in to begin, and the answers would be anonymized by job title before sent to the managers. Just about everyone in my department has a different job title, so it was a unanimous nope.
Yeah at Walmart they wanted to know what department you worked in and what hours you usually worked. I think the computers might have already been logged in though.
tomgordon55
We will neversell your information
ATDWorks
PSA, the department/ team is known so it’s easy to triangulate you from there.
NorrinxRadd
After our anonymous survey, I was called into hr (she's very nice) to ask why my anwsers were so different from everyone. I told her very plainly "I was honest" I then asked how she knew it was mine.
enderite
Had a manager once that made up an “anonymous” survey for all of his team.
There were two of us.
We gave the exact same answers. All3 out of five.
SavageDrums
Our employee survey was conducted months ago. The day after it was done they announced that "all the employees wanted more AI tools", and launched some sad, awful "AI" "training" app.
But oddly, they still haven't released any of the results of the survey other than that obvious and stupid lie.
It's almost like everyone at my company hates it there and are getting very vocal about it.
DaffydeDick
Electronic survey's are not anonymous as the IP can be traced.
UptightBanana
Had a director spend 2 hrs in a department meeting trying to find out who gave her the 1 star in a survey. 2 hours of trying to find "who" instead of finding "why". When I (and several others) decided to leave that job, our exit surveys burnt her at the stake. Didn't make any difference though. She blew so much smoke at her bosses they though she could do no wrong.
alexfont545
This doesn't make any sense. It was an anonymous survey. They had no way of knowing....
QuartzPoker
The advice I got on these is to be honest, but professional. The "anonymous" part is like anonymity in therapy - it only applies until you say something that worries somebody.
Bonus: A neutral professional tone with no slang can make it harder to tell who you are from speech.
themilkjug
Filled one out today, scorched Earth responses.
I'm just waiting to drop my two week notice, because I start a new job on the 20th
Miller16of16
"When Keeping it Real...Goes Wrong"
Grimlinnan
It is never anonymous. Always a lie and never for your benefit. HR departments are there to protect Employers never to protect employees. Team building is Grooming and manipulation.
SayRamrod
shit, that's so true. always felt gross about teambuilding exercises and now i know why.
RenaissanceFaireMan
"You're the only one that hasn't completed the survey" - my boss
rydecker
Even calling LP....not anonymous
todaytomorrowwillbeyesterday
If it's an anonymous survey, how would they know that you didn't turn one in? You're anonymous, right? NOT
ThomasThundersword
As IT who once was tasked to make one of those. Boss said “make it annon, but track who responded to get everyone” which with 0 extra budget is, hard. But I did it. I made entirely non-anonymous, aggregated the results myself, the delated individual responses. so what the boss saw was entirely annon. for some reason he didn’t like that….
RenaissanceFaireMan
Just tell your boss it looked like a phishing attack.
Kyzyl
extra points if you submit the email as phishing to IT Security.
Ricdesan
Hahhh they dont pay me enough to share a valuable opinion.
andrewgrr1
My favorite is the reminder emails. "We notice you haven't completed your confidential survey yet." Uhhh huh.
I0VE525P00GE
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
I ignore those until the third time they harass me to respond and then it's N/A or No Opinion
5thAveSmugglerForHire
We've got this going on at work right now. Scan a QR code to fill out an "anonymous" survey. Fuck that. Probably get some Spyware uploaded to my phone. Besides, the local management team knows what I think of them.
DeepThought42
Never respond to these types of surveys and never do the exit interview.
Shaodyn
"The survey is completely anonymous and 100% voluntary." And then they know exactly who has and hasn't done the survey, and constantly pester anyone who chooses not to take it.
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
Lol. Been there.
fractalsphere
"These surveys are anonymous" and "don't share this link with other employees" are mutually exclusive statements.
Badprenup
They're not though. I get why people think that, but not only is it possible to do that it's also really very simple to implement. It's all dependent on how the survey system is created.
The link can be tied to email to see if you completed the survey without retaining the data on when you completed it. That's just a table with your email, unique URL, and a boolean "has completed survey" flag. That also prevents you from submitting the survey twice. 1/2
Badprenup
Then there's a separate table that's just the answers for each question. No unique URL, no email, no timestamps.
When you complete the survey it sends two submissions. One to the first table that's just your URL and the flag saying you completed the survey. And the second one goes to the second table with just your answers.
I can't speak for all companies to ensure they're actually doing that (they probably aren't), but it's piss-easy to make a survey work like that from a technical standpoint
FrankGrenadine
Not arrested But I have seen someone coerced into quitting over an “ anonymous” work survey. (HR didn’t rat him out but they didn’t
FrankGrenadine
…sufficiently anonymize the results
gablestout
oof. That can be a risk, especially in smaller companies. Only so many people that could have certain perspectives
FrankGrenadine
Yeah there’s no hiding at all small company. But even at a bigger one it’s the cross tabs that’ll get you. He didn’t realize they’d be showing comparing results across sections of the survey and with seemingly innocuous data like years of experience.
FckleberryFarms
IDGAF, I'm brutally honest, it's made 0 difference.
CharlesMontgomeryBurns
Same, I lit our VP up last year, nothing happened
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Quick trip use to have houly employees go around and ask about the problems other hourly employees faced. A friend of mine had to be that person one time. He was excited because every employee hated the kitchens when they started that. He said they will do away with those. Now every Qt has one here. We are the home of QT.
Bladedrummer
Same. I got let go after 8 years, same as everyone else. Didn't make any difference other than my manager constantly remarking that my "scores" in the surveys were the lowest in the company. I worked at bungie. You tell me if I was right seeing how things ended up there...
glittalogik
Never any issues from the general employee survey. I did get called out over an IT Services survey I *thought* was anonymous, mostly due to suggesting their ticketing system needed to be taken out back and shot.
SavageDrums
The surveys don't mean anything, they're just more stupid nonsense from business school, and no manager anywhere is capable enough of independent reasoning to ignore stupid shit that they were taught.
youreathing
Same. Fuck being anonymous. I sign my name to everything. They haven't fired me yet.
gablestout
Had a boss (who was actually the CISO) tell me NOT to be anonymous once, because he wanted everyone to know it was me that said it. Told me not to worry, he had my back. And he was right. CEO even mentioned it once in passing...called me "tactically brutal."
Arbitrarynamehere
Your mileage will vary. I've seen waves of layoffs affect high performers who weren't particularly savvy when it came to office politics.
SavageDrums
Which is one of the many reasons that MBA /management types are the stupidest assholes on the planet.
cousteau
Yeah, the one time I spoke kind of openly on my anonymous survey (basically complaining about normal stuff, nothing crazy), a month later my contract which was supposed to be one signature away from being renewed suddenly wasn't. I did learn my lesson though - guys, NEVER fill in those surveys.
BlindGardener
If they’ll fire you over survey results, do you really want to work there?
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
cousteau
No but all this happened during covid times and it really wasn't the best time to look for another job. (Plus, I'll never be 100% sure the no-renovation was a direct result of the survey, but I did learn the lesson nonetheless.)
OutboardOverlord
I don't do those. Ever.
KingKrabvoldIV
Mgmt def does use those, your loss.
SavageDrums
Hahahahahaha, no they fucking don't. They just cram the results into whatever they were going to do anyway.
rbudrick
"OutboardOverlord, we noticed you didn't complete your anonymous survey."
OutboardOverlord
That's right, and that's why.
cousteau
And you shouldn't!
dohcohv
I do, we got a manager fired because the most common response to the survey was "X manager consistently tries to push labor violations"
FckleberryFarms
Our surveys would never ever EVER touch managers. I've also found embedded email addresses and other tracking shit in them before. I've directly told them repeatedly that if they want honest feedback it needs to be actually anonymous. No one gives a fuck. It's for show.
OutboardOverlord
My experience is that whatever you answer has no bearing on anything unless it is so egregious that it would have had to be dealt with regardless.
dohcohv
There were several complaints to HR about the manager, but HR buried them. Only when the results came out from the survey did anything happen.
The survey was also compiled by a third party, which helps.
OutboardOverlord
Good for you. Your management is better than mine, then.
mondeca
"Your responses will be kept confidential. Log in now to begin."
Nah, pass.
Sigge1981
We have surveys like that, except the login and password are the same within departments. So dpt 1 has this login/password, dpt 2 has that login/password. That does help keeping answers anonymous. No department is small enough where an individual can be "held accountable" by the suits.
DrScienceface
Ehh, it depends on if they ask demographics. Age, sex, and marital status can narrow it down a lot. We had a guy get caught by that (granted, he was also the only male over 50 that was unmarried)
Sigge1981
There's nothing like that in our surveys. It's all work place related. Nothing personal at all. You just use the generic login and answer questions about work. We do them once a year. That doesn't stop the suits from saying we "misunderstand" the questions when the results aren't to their liking, but there is no way they could possibly single out anyone. It can be done, if there's any interest in actually keeping it anonymous.
ServerMonkeyKing
Why would they ever need to poll demographics when HR already has all that data and can easily compile reports based off of it? That's a solid nope survey in my opinion.
TheLastLuddite
Exactly how ours was set up. Log in to begin, and the answers would be anonymized by job title before sent to the managers. Just about everyone in my department has a different job title, so it was a unanimous nope.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Yeah at Walmart they wanted to know what department you worked in and what hours you usually worked. I think the computers might have already been logged in though.
Denvercoder09
"please enter your shift hours, blood type, first letter of your first name, first letter of your last name, rest of the letters of your name."