the inhumanity of israel makes one regret that the world was forced to give them a country. they do not deserve it based on their unlimited string of atrocities.
Because Israel can't conflate her with Hamas. Israel depends on western nations conflating Palestinians with Organizations like Hamas and the PLO, because those groups have carried out terrorist attacks in Europe. That allows Israel to portray Palestinians as "wolves in sheep's clothing", as dangerous, and hence justify the violence. Corrie was protesting more or less the same way a "save the trees" person would in the US. Megaphone and hi-vis vest included. The conflation is BS, but it's had 1/
had decades to be ingrained in the general public's mind. If you want to change people's minds, you need something that they can't weasel out of. And it's impossible to paint Her kind of protester as a danger justifying murder. 2/2
Fucking hell i remember this, it pisses me off to no end, I was raised Christian republican, and my classmates(Idaho mind you) joked about how she should've just moved out of the way she be alive. The Christian side of me didn't like that someone was killed but I didn't know anything about it and joined in laughing. Having woken up to the atrocities of what's going on i wish I could go slap the shit out of my past self.
'Classmates' is the important term here. We were all fucking idiots as kids. People like her were the exception, not the rule. We all laughed at shit we should've been appalled by or called out as problematic, we all made mistakes we now look back on and cringe ourselves into a singularity over. But that means we grew.
You can't change your past, but you can change your future. Which will then become your past. So.......you CAN change your past, but only before it happens. I hope this is helpful
Okay I had to go through a whole thing of logging on after signing out (attempting to not be on so much) just to say how the F did I not ever think of it that way before? I've only ever thought of changing the future, not changing my future past. For some reason that gave me a whole *whoosh* mind blown thing, because I don't want to have a bunch of new regrets when I'm older
Seriously, having gone to a Nazarene school, but honestly they're all just people caught up in their lives, and now as a non Christian I know so many of those people have no good example of what love is, it's hard to show them compassion they don't deserve but how are going to climb out of this hole we're all stuck in if we don't start somewhere.
I used to scoff when people would tell me your so young as a kid, you'll understand when you're older. I wish I could just wap the back of my head when I argued that.
There is no need for that thought, you were a brainwashed child in a cult, it was not your fault. The fact you know better now shows you've grown into a better person.
You'd think that followers of a religion founded by martyrs would, eh, not mock martyrs. But I'm obviously missing something, as I don't get their vicious hate and contempt for other living beings - even if their religion is supposedly all about love and nurturing life.
But seriously growing up in church, and Christian schools I've only ever met 2 truly Christ like Christians. They understood what is meant to love others. For most its just a lifestyle accessory.
Religion is about control. Control the masses. Dictate their thoughts to them. Exploit their spiritual needs, their desire for community, make them your servants. Take their money, fk their kids, make them lose touch with reality. That's religion. That's all it's ever been.
As with all such things, this is more complex. It wasn't Austin Powers slow mo run over. Her and other western protestors were camping and hiding out in Palestinian homes to prevent destruction for days.
On the day she died, she was behind/near rubble which got pushed onto her and she was dragged 10-15 meters.
Driver says they didn't see her, which is very plausible. Says they warned them to leave, which of course those warnings had been ignored for days. Protestors said they screamed at
Just so long as we all remember "they" isn't "Jews" or "Zionists" or "Israelis."
I mean you could say "they" meaning "Americans" make "I think ICE is doing Pretti Good" posts, and it's true, but come at me with that accusation because I'm an American and I'll go into a blind rage. No people are a monolith.
driver to stop, driver says they couldn't hear (plus hadn't protestors been shooting at them the whole time)?
A rational person must admit it's at least fairly likely this was an accident. I mean, imagine hiding out and intentionally getting in the way of construction equipment you see roadside.
If it was intentional it would have to have been very calculated or someone saw an opportunity type thing.
I think most of us have seen the women who was killed by a similar bulldozer by accident.
And before goalposts are moved, I'm saying nothing about what bulldozer was doing, not saying this proves Israel is the best, strictly stating that there's a decent chance this was an accident, Israel always claimed it was, and there's good evidence it was.
Don't worry. The GOP is flattening us as fast as they can to build data centers to keep track of the ones that don't die from rampant diseases or lack of clean water.
Banish them, not kill them. Disperse the people to all ends of the world and prohibit them from creating a country ever again. They had their chance and blew it. From Nazi victims to Nazi oppressors. I would never expect this to happen after what Hitler did
I'm not killing anyone because of my beliefs. At this point they deserve exactly what they are doing to others. I'm being generous by not wanting them to die. It's hard to be better when people like them constantly test my good will. I'd rather be a bad person for banishing them for killing others than be like them and kill others. Be better? How? Lie down and let them walk over me? Seriously, what do you expect everyone to do?
msgbubba
Nuke them from orbit it's the only way to be sure
OmnesMundiLardum
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever. - 1984
MagnumRadhard
Jesus CHRIST
michaelfire
Epstein Honey Trap-Google Maxwell's father, Israel ties http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-ining-into">http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-linto h">ing-into">http://www.timesofisrael.comk-is-wor">to h">ing">/for-wri">k-is-wor">to h">ing-into">http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/ http://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244 www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html /gallery/arpNy8U
titoitoi
https://nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html
GrimleyGraves
Fourth Reich.
Rogerwilco1974
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HolyFreakingToast
the inhumanity of israel makes one regret that the world was forced to give them a country. they do not deserve it based on their unlimited string of atrocities.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
I honestly thought they'd never lose the deep guilt the western world held for the holocaust. But against all odds they managed it!
martycos
Isreal is hated for a reason. They are brutal terrorists.
HogWashDiddler
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jwillywill
https://imgur.com/u1lYjlW.mp4
RigidGristle
Entitled pieces of shit
michaelfire
War crimes, takeover, stay in power coup Ops underway in Israel. US/CIA, Theil's Palantir, Israeli Op Lavender targets civilian detention, genocide https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocin-gaza/">https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-internationa">ide-agai">in-gaza/">https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/ https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/05/end-unfolding-genocide-or-watch-it-end-life-gaza-un-experts-say-states-face http://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/15/gaza-latest-israeli-plan-inches-closer-extermination 1
michaelfire
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michaelfire
Epstein Honey Trap-Google Maxwell's father, Israel ties http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-ining-into">http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-linto h">ing-into">http://www.timesofisrael.comk-is-wor">to h">ing">/for-wri">k-is-wor">to h">ing-into">http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/ http://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244 www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html /gallery/arpNy8U
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Not just her
PrincessWasabi
Maybe more sympathy from white western people if they see a kid that looks like theirs? Or maybe showing it’s been happening awhile ?
ulfgarBentbeak
Because Israel can't conflate her with Hamas. Israel depends on western nations conflating Palestinians with Organizations like Hamas and the PLO, because those groups have carried out terrorist attacks in Europe. That allows Israel to portray Palestinians as "wolves in sheep's clothing", as dangerous, and hence justify the violence. Corrie was protesting more or less the same way a "save the trees" person would in the US. Megaphone and hi-vis vest included. The conflation is BS, but it's had 1/
ulfgarBentbeak
had decades to be ingrained in the general public's mind. If you want to change people's minds, you need something that they can't weasel out of. And it's impossible to paint Her kind of protester as a danger justifying murder. 2/2
lezgetfukkinreal
Fucking hell i remember this, it pisses me off to no end, I was raised Christian republican, and my classmates(Idaho mind you) joked about how she should've just moved out of the way she be alive. The Christian side of me didn't like that someone was killed but I didn't know anything about it and joined in laughing. Having woken up to the atrocities of what's going on i wish I could go slap the shit out of my past self.
BananaForScaIe
Sorta a typical path, sadly. And I say that as someone who found God again thanks to addiction (weird thanks but I'll stand by it)
...
I still have a serious ick for any organized religion.
Rogahar
'Classmates' is the important term here. We were all fucking idiots as kids. People like her were the exception, not the rule. We all laughed at shit we should've been appalled by or called out as problematic, we all made mistakes we now look back on and cringe ourselves into a singularity over. But that means we grew.
Rogerwilco1974
You can't change your past, but you can change your future. Which will then become your past. So.......you CAN change your past, but only before it happens. I hope this is helpful
GasolineRain
Okay I had to go through a whole thing of logging on after signing out (attempting to not be on so much) just to say how the F did I not ever think of it that way before? I've only ever thought of changing the future, not changing my future past. For some reason that gave me a whole *whoosh* mind blown thing, because I don't want to have a bunch of new regrets when I'm older
Lovingimpaler
Bible college grad here, I feel the same. I also finally see what a sham "christian republicanism" is, and wish I could slap younger me.
lezgetfukkinreal
Seriously, having gone to a Nazarene school, but honestly they're all just people caught up in their lives, and now as a non Christian I know so many of those people have no good example of what love is, it's hard to show them compassion they don't deserve but how are going to climb out of this hole we're all stuck in if we don't start somewhere.
SavageDrums
I was raised by pretty lefty parents in a more or less agnostic household, and I would also like to go back and slap the shit out of my past self.
Kids are idiots, and teenagers are the idiotest
lezgetfukkinreal
I used to scoff when people would tell me your so young as a kid, you'll understand when you're older. I wish I could just wap the back of my head when I argued that.
IncognitoEnthusiast
There is no need for that thought, you were a brainwashed child in a cult, it was not your fault. The fact you know better now shows you've grown into a better person.
PrincessWasabi
That is called growth, congrats you are bettering yourself. I wonder how many people who laughed with u feel the same way now
lezgetfukkinreal
I wonder that too, it makes me sad really, there's so many people out there who just don't think beyond themselves. I really hope someday...
iwenttousersubandalligotwasthislousyusername
Yeah, I don't even wanna say some of the braindead takes I had when I was a teenager, so you're not alone
lezgetfukkinreal
Yeah it feels cliche but it's crazy how much we need to break that cycle and learn to figure ourselves and move on.
herrherr
You'd think that followers of a religion founded by martyrs would, eh, not mock martyrs. But I'm obviously missing something, as I don't get their vicious hate and contempt for other living beings - even if their religion is supposedly all about love and nurturing life.
lezgetfukkinreal
But seriously growing up in church, and Christian schools I've only ever met 2 truly Christ like Christians. They understood what is meant to love others. For most its just a lifestyle accessory.
Goldensands
Religion is about control. Control the masses. Dictate their thoughts to them. Exploit their spiritual needs, their desire for community, make them your servants. Take their money, fk their kids, make them lose touch with reality. That's religion. That's all it's ever been.
xj4low
I hope the driver sees her face every time he closes his eyes.
IHaveUnpopularOpinions
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Unicron89
I don't think she was 13 when she was murdered. Not that it makes a difference
gkrum6847
It doesn't say she was 10 IN the year 2000. It says when she was 10 she said she wanted to end world hunger BY the year 2000.
Unicron89
My bad!
shehdbeuebw738373
As with all such things, this is more complex. It wasn't Austin Powers slow mo run over. Her and other western protestors were camping and hiding out in Palestinian homes to prevent destruction for days.
On the day she died, she was behind/near rubble which got pushed onto her and she was dragged 10-15 meters.
Driver says they didn't see her, which is very plausible. Says they warned them to leave, which of course those warnings had been ignored for days. Protestors said they screamed at
Morganelefay
Which is one thing. The fact that they still make Rachel Corrie pancakes, however...
shehdbeuebw738373
Just so long as we all remember "they" isn't "Jews" or "Zionists" or "Israelis."
I mean you could say "they" meaning "Americans" make "I think ICE is doing Pretti Good" posts, and it's true, but come at me with that accusation because I'm an American and I'll go into a blind rage. No people are a monolith.
shehdbeuebw738373
driver to stop, driver says they couldn't hear (plus hadn't protestors been shooting at them the whole time)?
A rational person must admit it's at least fairly likely this was an accident. I mean, imagine hiding out and intentionally getting in the way of construction equipment you see roadside.
If it was intentional it would have to have been very calculated or someone saw an opportunity type thing.
I think most of us have seen the women who was killed by a similar bulldozer by accident.
shehdbeuebw738373
And before goalposts are moved, I'm saying nothing about what bulldozer was doing, not saying this proves Israel is the best, strictly stating that there's a decent chance this was an accident, Israel always claimed it was, and there's good evidence it was.
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unannouncedguest
Yeah like 2000 years ago or more
GrandmaSlappy
Israel had no right to exist in the first place, it's stolen land from the beginning. They started murdering the locals on day 1.
GrandmaSlappy
Seriously, if you're not aware of how Israel came to be, it's infuriatingly evil trojan horsed in on the wake of the holocaust.
"Behind the Bastards" podcast does a very comprehensive coverage of it.
Emjayen
So did the US. Both shitholes need to be levelled.
hfctom
Don't worry. The GOP is flattening us as fast as they can to build data centers to keep track of the ones that don't die from rampant diseases or lack of clean water.
BrdCdn
Yay, because calling for ethnic cleansing is a great response to ethnic cleansing.
EmailFail
Bit of a leap from lost the right to exist to genocide
TyphoonMuscles
They do it gleefully and proudly, without a shred of remorse. What would you suggest as a solution?
BrdCdn
Literally every person in the country? Including the children?
InnerBushman
Banish them, not kill them. Disperse the people to all ends of the world and prohibit them from creating a country ever again. They had their chance and blew it. From Nazi victims to Nazi oppressors. I would never expect this to happen after what Hitler did
BrdCdn
That's textbook ethnic cleansing. Be better.
InnerBushman
I'm not killing anyone because of my beliefs. At this point they deserve exactly what they are doing to others. I'm being generous by not wanting them to die. It's hard to be better when people like them constantly test my good will. I'd rather be a bad person for banishing them for killing others than be like them and kill others. Be better? How? Lie down and let them walk over me? Seriously, what do you expect everyone to do?
BrickaBrackaFireCracker
Did they at least feed her to hungry people?
LtRooney
Hey, quick question, what in the ever loving fuck is wrong with you?
steffenwerhter
What a fucking odd thing to say.
laserfork
Kind of. Israelis like to make pancakes with a face on them to celebrate her death.
ZeldaShotFirst
Wait what
Ozimbah
Yes, it is in fact that fucked up.
bricePlanetDiver
https://www.threads.com/@ajabarber/post/C7CmzVIIC6S
LicensedAdHominem
Jesus Christ, just... just fucking nuke it at this point. Nazis won by calling themselves Israeli.
bricePlanetDiver
And some of them taunt her parents to this very day.