I dunno, guys. All the dudes whose livelihoods depend on massive adoption of AI are telling me I can't miss out on AI. Surely they wouldn't lie about that.
Pop culture taught us that the hot dog take over would require a prolonged fight between the hot dogs and a gritty human resistance. It turned out that the hot dog take over will die before it can be born because the people who fostered it were too greedy and stupid to carry it out without bankrupting each other.
This is a new thing. I've never seen this. I've never seen sales people try so hard to push a product on to people who so badly do not want it. This is insane.
It’s because it’s an equalizer for the incompetent. The more someone espouses the quality of AI output, the more they reveal their own lack of standards for quality. They NEED other people to affirm that what AI produces is valuable, because it’s the only opportunity for growth these people have left to them.
The only new part is how far it's spilled out of the tech sphere. Otherwise, this happens all the time -- someone's working on a new technology, hypes it up to sell it, businesses get only the vaguest idea of how it works before they build up fantasies about its potential, go all-in, force it on the engineers with mixed results.
Exactly… and those “mixed results” are that it sticks around in the places it’s actually useful, and disappears from everywhere else, and a decade later nobody’s surprised at all by where it is or isn’t.
Linux, the Internet, open APIs, remote work, cloud computing, Kubernetes… now AI.
This is how all new tools come into the tech world.
Yup. NoSQL databases were my first big experience with the trend. These things fill the niche that they were meant to fill, and are otherwise forgotten about in favor of the next overhyped tech fad.
I think the only exception is web3, which has fills no niche because it's just stupid. Unless crime is a niche?
Oh man… “MongoDB is Web Scale!” was a mocking meme back in the day, with just as much vitriol as we have from the anti-AI camp today.
Now Mongo is backing major systems, as a high-speed document store, only where it makes sense.
And I’d argue that the pattern holds for Web 3.0 and blockchain… they’ve fallen away to just being used in the places they’re sensible to use (which happens to be “almost nowhere”).
Yeeeeah. NoSQL sticks in my memory because I was part of the Amazon empire and starting a new project, and one of the higher teams strongly urged me to use DynamoDB instead of RDS ahead of the mandatory NoSQL initiative.
Instead of an onboarding guide, there was a motivational speech about how engineers should be excited by the opportunities of new technology and to start solving the new problems in implementation...
I wasn't getting paid enough for that, so I used RDS instead.
This. AI is inherently not intelligent. Our definition of intelligence is just not applied to this. Intelligence is self thinking and self problem solving. This thing is just predicting which Google source is the best to cite then using that input in another tool to create a (what is probably) good summary and gives you that. Thus there is just nothing intelligent
From what I understand it's along the lines of choosing information which is statistically the most COMMON. There's some guidelines and tweaks to generally guide it towards information we want but in the end "where there is smoke" an AI is extremely likely to say "there is fire." It's basically a robotic family feud.
I'm a software engineer and have studied quite recently especially about AI as well. Your explanation is mostly correct except it is not about most common, but like most probably a good answer. Like your explanation with where there is smoke is correct, but depending on the input it might say another answer is more probable to be a good answer. It is also why top Reddit posts/anwers sometimes have priority in the answers of AI.
Yup, it's a new news article every day and new posts all over social media. Just ask for examples of the best selling AI movies, books, tv shows, video games, programs, etc... THEY DONT EXIST.
Where AI is actually useful is in the boring business stuff and admin. All the hype laden diffusion model things you're talking about just aren't really fit for purpose since it can't create something fundamentally new. But in business there are so, so many processes that are just same shit different day. Look up stuff from place A, do some rote analysis, put in place B in different format. That's what AI is able to do now.
Some chump bought "art" for a million? That's one idiot though, and art sold like that is how the rich laundering money. Not sure that quite counts as really being a thing, but it is quite stupid and irresponsible.
The thing that kills me, is that on kindle unlimited and probably kindle as well, there are tons of ai generated books. It is slop. But people are still reading them. Which means those people using the ai to make them are getting paid something.
I’m sure there’s a lot of fake reviews. Amazon doesn’t seem to be doing anything to curtail the situation. But people also read slop, so… dunno?
bastardof69
Hot Dog generated NSFW images of wieners and wide open buns for kids, not not a condoment in sight.
moodytravesty
ai;dr
BaWitda
I dunno, guys. All the dudes whose livelihoods depend on massive adoption of AI are telling me I can't miss out on AI. Surely they wouldn't lie about that.
dark57
jamiekellyxxx
I work for a company called 1900Hotdog.com. I regret to report, It’s true. All of it.
powwerbottom
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1NzN0emxhNXRqM3k1MHNnY3pvcDJvN2NsaXh0YWo4dWh6cG9vdHQ2MyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/qrI18iKmzvTeSpzOTy/200w.webp
maybeamonster
MrSatisify
mormonbatman
Pop culture taught us that the hot dog take over would require a prolonged fight between the hot dogs and a gritty human resistance. It turned out that the hot dog take over will die before it can be born because the people who fostered it were too greedy and stupid to carry it out without bankrupting each other.
VastMajorityRule
All I want is a picture of a got dang hot dog.
ChareAndFlaff
Do I look like I know what a jaypeg is?
THISISYELLING
This AI bubble is the stock speculation of the 1920s ready to come and just fucking destroy global markets. Ready to repeat the 1930s, guys?
TacoFox
CertifiedBonerDonor
What's with the hot dogs?
Yellowchopsticks
My hot dog insists on extra fingers.
Neurisko
Fingers, lips, anuses, intestines, feet, etc.
lifeisadadjoke
Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog, we got ears, it's time for cheers.
Freyja33
and Tears for Fears? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGCdLKXNF3w
PowerTrip60
Did anyone else see Upgrade (2018)? Is anyone else afraid thats what is happening with all the people pushing ai?
yepwatermelon
Please read If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies.
bitemark
The guy from Because Science did a video review on that, but never got to *how*everyone dies. It just came off as crackpot alarmist
emertonom
I haven't read the book, but I think it's basically "instrumental convergence." Robert Miles has a great video on this: https://youtu.be/ZeecOKBus3Q
JodyBird
Is that the sequel to Do Not Build The Torment Nexus?
yepwatermelon
Pretty much.
AntaNce
Isn't The Torment Nexus running right now?
OneBigBeautifulBiscuit
TunnelRat13
"A hotdog just tried to kill a human to preserve its own existence."
C141Clay
BarnegatLight
I'm really not sure that I should be taking Delicious_Taco's word about the hot dog market...
Neurisko
I think there may be more than one metaphor involved.
nothingunused
The line between those two types of sandwich can get a little blurred.
OSRSSailing
The future is *now*, hot dog man
MeMonty
Question : What toppings are on the all-dressed hotdogs where you live?
MeMonty
Here it's mustard relish onions and vinegary coleslaw, the connaisseurs get cayenne sprinkled on top
Freyja33
Nice try FBI
MeMonty
Thanks 👍
SuperfluousMeh
This is a new thing. I've never seen this. I've never seen sales people try so hard to push a product on to people who so badly do not want it. This is insane.
Septcanmat
It’s because it’s an equalizer for the incompetent. The more someone espouses the quality of AI output, the more they reveal their own lack of standards for quality. They NEED other people to affirm that what AI produces is valuable, because it’s the only opportunity for growth these people have left to them.
LiminallyInsane
The only new part is how far it's spilled out of the tech sphere. Otherwise, this happens all the time -- someone's working on a new technology, hypes it up to sell it, businesses get only the vaguest idea of how it works before they build up fantasies about its potential, go all-in, force it on the engineers with mixed results.
Tarmaccian
Exactly… and those “mixed results” are that it sticks around in the places it’s actually useful, and disappears from everywhere else, and a decade later nobody’s surprised at all by where it is or isn’t.
Linux, the Internet, open APIs, remote work, cloud computing, Kubernetes… now AI.
This is how all new tools come into the tech world.
LiminallyInsane
Yup. NoSQL databases were my first big experience with the trend. These things fill the niche that they were meant to fill, and are otherwise forgotten about in favor of the next overhyped tech fad.
I think the only exception is web3, which has fills no niche because it's just stupid. Unless crime is a niche?
Tarmaccian
Oh man… “MongoDB is Web Scale!” was a mocking meme back in the day, with just as much vitriol as we have from the anti-AI camp today.
Now Mongo is backing major systems, as a high-speed document store, only where it makes sense.
And I’d argue that the pattern holds for Web 3.0 and blockchain… they’ve fallen away to just being used in the places they’re sensible to use (which happens to be “almost nowhere”).
LiminallyInsane
Yeeeeah. NoSQL sticks in my memory because I was part of the Amazon empire and starting a new project, and one of the higher teams strongly urged me to use DynamoDB instead of RDS ahead of the mandatory NoSQL initiative.
Instead of an onboarding guide, there was a motivational speech about how engineers should be excited by the opportunities of new technology and to start solving the new problems in implementation...
I wasn't getting paid enough for that, so I used RDS instead.
Svartsinn
AI learning from the internet until the internet is filled with facts generated by AI and then it just gets dumber and dumber.
ToasterDent
AI needs a competitive environment where they can 'die' if they do something dumb - then they'll get that feedback look to get smarter.
JadeNB1729
Any metric will be gamed. They won't become smart; they'll just learn to fool the detectors.
Hoogemast
This. AI is inherently not intelligent. Our definition of intelligence is just not applied to this. Intelligence is self thinking and self problem solving. This thing is just predicting which Google source is the best to cite then using that input in another tool to create a (what is probably) good summary and gives you that. Thus there is just nothing intelligent
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
From what I understand it's along the lines of choosing information which is statistically the most COMMON. There's some guidelines and tweaks to generally guide it towards information we want but in the end "where there is smoke" an AI is extremely likely to say "there is fire." It's basically a robotic family feud.
Hoogemast
I'm a software engineer and have studied quite recently especially about AI as well. Your explanation is mostly correct except it is not about most common, but like most probably a good answer. Like your explanation with where there is smoke is correct, but depending on the input it might say another answer is more probable to be a good answer. It is also why top Reddit posts/anwers sometimes have priority in the answers of AI.
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
itdoesntmatternoneofthismatters
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MmFtbmNhNHJrNHB2ZDE5NXl5OHRzMnpzY2R5M3Q0Nm44dXJ2ZTlreCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/bm02BE6DQ4Oag8GXep/200w.webp I wish to understand.
AnotherBeardedCanadian
TL;DR = Too Long; Didn't Read. The person changed it to AI;DR for a post someone made with AI slop
cousteau
hd;dr
Yakeshinu
MyVirginityIsGrowingBack
Banzai51
No online discussion of hot dogs is complete without this gif.
CorvidPrime
Freyja33
adamlstf9
“I regret nothing!”
DYLANLEE79
Yup, it's a new news article every day and new posts all over social media. Just ask for examples of the best selling AI movies, books, tv shows, video games, programs, etc... THEY DONT EXIST.
drinkthederpentine
Where AI is actually useful is in the boring business stuff and admin. All the hype laden diffusion model things you're talking about just aren't really fit for purpose since it can't create something fundamentally new. But in business there are so, so many processes that are just same shit different day. Look up stuff from place A, do some rote analysis, put in place B in different format. That's what AI is able to do now.
Frozenspokes
An AI song hit number 1 in some country streaming chart. So there is that.
Musicosity
If you're saying no one is buying AI-generated media, they definitely do.
Jimmah1
Other than laying for it to be generated yourself....where?
Musicosity
Sotheby's
Jimmah1
Some chump bought "art" for a million?
That's one idiot though, and art sold like that is how the rich laundering money. Not sure that quite counts as really being a thing, but it is quite stupid and irresponsible.
And the painting is crap
Musicosity
Stupid as it may be, it still exists...which is the point of the reply.
akafluffy
not sure if chump or tax evasion
DYLANLEE79
Ok name 3 best selling/ most watched AI generated books, games, tv shows or movies.
randomwalrus
I mean, allegedly the last season (if not more) of Stranger Things was written with AI.
Musicosity
Well that's why I used the word 'media'. Refik Anadol has sold a couple AI-generated pieces for over a million.
WaxedApple
Thats just money laundering
Musicosity
Prove it
cropduster5000
Kinda like NFTs were selling, eh?
DYLANLEE79
Lol. An NFT bro? THAT'S your example? Oh hunny, can I sell you a bridge?
Musicosity
I'm sure he's sold some NFTs. I was thinking of 'A.I. God'. I'm not sure why you're being so pretentious. You've moved the goalpost twice now.
jakedafish
The thing that kills me, is that on kindle unlimited and probably kindle as well, there are tons of ai generated books. It is slop. But people are still reading them. Which means those people using the ai to make them are getting paid something.
DYLANLEE79
Are people really reading them though? I wonder how many are fake reviews and how many are people who got a few chapters in and then abandoned it?
jakedafish
Reading a few chapters in still nets them money.
I’m sure there’s a lot of fake reviews. Amazon doesn’t seem to be doing anything to curtail the situation. But people also read slop, so… dunno?
RoyDMercer
This is brilliant.
Freyja33
I knew I had to post it when I saw a longpost on here yesterday about how revolutionary AI is and it sounded *exactly* like this
Phosphatidylethanolamine
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dmpmem5nZ2R6emo3MjFmbmJybnI4eTdpbGhrano1cXV3bXNnYXRociZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/7LAqMVFxOGPAc/200w.webp
RoyDMercer
Yes! I wish I would have saved that post.
Freyja33
/gallery/something-is-coming-lot-quicker-than-anyone-expected-jvkanp8
CookieMonstersCrumbs
That post needs so many more downvotes
RoyDMercer
Thanks!
etherbunny41
AI;DR
Snufflegrumpagus
This isn't about hotdogs, is it?
pompoikpoik
i think it's about some kind of sausage sandwich, but i doubt there is anything harm done to dogs
tzahtman
yqpqfrdp625772
This is the correct version of this gif. ect
CorvidPrime
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat…?
BeaverOnFire
GeneralAnubis
cousteau
No, it's about jay-pegs
akafluffy
do I look like I know hwut a gosh darned jay-peg is, I just want a picture of a got dang hot-dog.
XeroZach
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZTgyZml2MjljdGp0YnNna3Z1MnF4M2tpMW9kdDFyMTltNmMyNGs3NCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/USVZVmZPQ8Yj91MZ9q/200w.webp
Malak224
FuzzyX
Just here to throw in the Fallout series "hot dog" meaning.
UnaccomplishedWatcherImNotaBot
Well, it is a hot topic and it's a dog's life
hawkesnightmare
It took me until Josh Chavis' tweet to understand what was happening.
TicoGuy
After the 3rd Hotdog mention, I stopped reading and went to go get a Hot dog. So whatever this is about I think it's working.
idrinkcheapbeer
I love hot dogs too.
randomwalrus
Welcome to Costco, I love you.
SalmonMax
It's frankly inspiring.
lonosham
Underrated comment of the day
lonosham
Some would say it’s a banger
Tadrakyn
Excellent content in this case.
lonosham
You’re turning this into a farce
Freyja33
FuzorFishbug
I will wear my "made with Mematic" badge proudly.
Mikeiller
depends on what's funnier.
jaydude22
I got 69th upvote. My life is complete now.
Prometheusblu
Nice
BeragondGreatstride
Nah, I’ll just use GIMP
MeeseOnABeam
really need to get a better name for that
FeedTheNachoMan
Paint.net for me
Ngugi
Druidhunter77
That gave me flashbacks
beachbum273
Flashbacks? The hell do you mean, flashbacks? I have GIMP installed *right now*
Ionico
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1cWozMDBlcW55ZDN5MzJldHk4cTIxZjY2MXRwNW95am96azJhZDJpMSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/9c9tE5Pr0qElW/200w.webp
adamlstf9
Okay, but it’s damn hard to edit while wearing this damn hood.
Kehy
You know what else is hard?
adamlstf9
Not without permission!