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Aug 12, 2021 12:15 PM
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djangojazz
Donald Trump: I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose support. (Had an insurrection instead) Still face of party. GOP blows.
TheDadestDad
Are you familiar with Bill Clinton, JFK, and so on?
roblewisjr101
Laughing. Politicians and ethical behavior? Good luck.
imthattechguy
I think regardless of party, claims need to be substantiated before resigning. Resigning before they are seems to prove guilt.
sadurdaynight
How about some investigations & legal action? All of this just reaffirms how certain wealth & political standings put you above the law.
Karpet22
Shouldn't this have the Politics tag?
KleptoKea
Another American status quo brought to you by the American People who either support or tolerate it.
Can8ian
Republicans: Its not rape or assault, if we did it!
LizardEnterprises
Yup. I LOVED Al Franken as a senator, and even though his transgressions were minor, it was still right to force him out.
LizardEnterprises
If we'd stuck to that principle nationally, instead of just one party; no trump, no gaetz, no gym jordan, no kavanaugh.
djangojazz
Good example of how Republicans have no integrity too. It's literally their most dominant trait. Zero integrity.
icannotthinkofanyrationalname
Snowflakes are going to snowflake. Republicans calling liberals 'snowflakes' is 100% projection.
MotherofCoeurls
That first slide is just fucking gross. What a shite thing to say.
euphoricopportunity
For example - if a Republican breaks ranks on an isdue, they do eat their own.
shinagami091
I’m awfully tired of Democrats taking the high road in an effort to lead by example when we all know Republicans never will.
Lanhdanan
An eye for an eye only leaves us all blind.
sleepinggreenidea
As a lifelong Democrat, I wish this was true. It's more true than "both sides", but "principle before party" in particular isn't true of us.
sleepinggreenidea
The modern Democratic Party is born of the various regional Democratic machines of the last century, and our leadership reflects that still.
ButtBot9900
It's been party over country for Republicans for decades now.
Thisguyrighthereagain
Reminds me of the right screeching ‘Well if you’re going to investigate Trump’s relationship with Epstein you’ll have to investigate /1
Thisguyrighthereagain
Bill Clinton’s relationship with him too!’ only for the left to collectively say ‘Yeah, that’s right, that’s what you’re supposed to do’ /2
TarrkertheNewt
Not always the case. Personally, I'm really sick of the whole "D vs R" thing going on. There are WAY more political stances than those two.
Deaghaidh
:cough: Bill Clinton :cough:
sniffo
https://theauthoritarians.org/
mintakka
GOP is a cult. Democrats are a political party.
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
Which (scary enough) is part of why they're still around. They stick by people and profit, even if their principles are garbage
graehall
I'd argue part of the problem is too many republicans are proud of that sort of behaviour, & getting away with it.
VaultGirl69
Well, when someone says one of them, "tells it like it is" they are always bullying someone with no regard to policy or being racist.
CryptographicAbe
“When you’re famous, they let you do it.” “I moved on her like a bitch” -the ideological leader of the GOP.
Bmxrider70763
My grandma dismissed trumps "grab her by the pussy" comment as "just locker room talk". She goes to church every Sunday. 1/
RubberMonkeys
My sister-in-law defended him by asking if that's who he was or who he is when I asked about the grab 'em tape.
Bmxrider70763
I replied that if I was in a locker room and some dude talked like that, we would be fighting. I couldn't believe the mental gymnastics.
sevenfingerman
They eat their own all the time, just not for things that matter like this.
PiggyWobbles
only over important things like "not overthrowing an election"
naytorin
Mostly for having the audacity to disagree with Dear Leader.
sevenfingerman
Exactly
MrOsmo
Probably shouldn't be so quick to jump on the high horse here. Cuomo was asked about resigning months ago and told everybody hell no
kittybuttwiggle
The meme has nothing to do with how much Cuomo liked it. It says the party asked, and your rebuttal is they asked ... even more?
MrOsmo
I'm saying it took 8 months and a presidential suggestion to get the job done, so maybe consider that before taking the high and mighty rout
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MrOsmo
It's more like a "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" type of deal
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Promethianfire
I was in an Uber with conservative talk radio on and the woman on it was talking about how Cuomo's resignation was an example of the
Promethianfire
"Tyrany of women" using Me Too for political purposes, and how dangerous it is to be a man in the age of "wokeness." She then went on to
Promethianfire
Say how NY was a helllish nightmare of a state due to liberal this and that.
RufusPimperton
I guess that's why it was the economic and cultural capital of the United States for 2 centuries.
Promethianfire
Well it was that because World War 1.
RufusPimperton
I guess that's why Richmond and Jacksonville were hotbeds of immigration and industry in the Gilded Age?
BootsDusty
Deadpo0l
Al Franken didn’t even do anything wrong
Govote
I've said it once I'll say it 1000 times more: you can check your voter registration at https://vote.org
atomiccheesegod
Dems do it to save face with voters, if they truly cared they would have ppl like this in power still
4etherling
They did ask him to resign his seat after the sex allegations and he did. He married that girl too. He is a piece of shit but not dems fault
cheesedogs
This is because they see resignation as weakening their political position. Its literally only about power to them.
SalmonTheWise
I think there is also few dashes of "protecting each other from accountability". They all have some dirt in their past.
neffstradamus
Also Gym Jordan
Icantthinkofaname2
Vicious Nazis vs polite corporate bootlickers. Both are still right wing.
KeithSvenson
BuT wHaT aBoUt ThAt StUfF tHe DeMoCrAtS dId 12 YeArS aGo? ~~republicans
Youhavinagiraffe
Franken, Hill and Cuomo really shouldn't be grouped together. Hill maybe should have resigned but was also the victim of an extensive...
Youhavinagiraffe
...harrassment campaign about a purely consensual (but inappropriate) relationship and Franken's stuff was blown well out of proportion...
Youhavinagiraffe
...and deserved a reprimand and an apology at most. Cuomo is scum and couldn't go fast enough
Lycarion
While I in no way support the Republicans, I don't think mere allegations should, in principle, be enough to make someone resign. It depends
imjustheretocontradictop
I agree, which is why I think it's good many Democrats waited for the AG's report. Substantiation of the accusations warranted resignation.
Lycarion
on the case, of course, but I do see a danger in a trial by public opinion before a court of law has actually passed a proper judgement.
TheCacklingJackal
I'd agree for criminal punishment. Resigning isn't a criminal punishment. Representatives should resign at the will of the people.
loma45
Sure, but how to do you measure the "will of the people" outside an election?
TheCacklingJackal
The same way representatives currently do I suppose. They're supposed to periodically communicate with their constituents right?
loma45
Sure, but there's a lot of sampling bias there. People are unlikely to call in and say "you shouldn't resign" compared to the opposite
HalstenTorqThorkelson
Problem is that if they resign, many people will see it as an admission of guilt.
TheCacklingJackal
Those people would be mistaken. It's the price of public service.
HalstenTorqThorkelson
Doesn't matter if they're mistaken if the outcome is still an innocent person being ostracised.
pw9001
If it's just one maybe, but if it's several allegations from multiple people over a period of years then the accused should just fuck off.
pw9001
It might be a conspiracy against them or Ockam's razor could apply and they're just a shit person
ArkoneAxon
And... THAT argument is why "innocent until proven guilty" is such an important legal concept.
pw9001
Not saying arrest, just saying they should back off and let investigations happen
barnsandnobel
Even if its just one, i think the ethical thing to do is step down until any trials or investigations are done, in order to not sway them.
eyeLied
If that is all it took, many would be accused. It would be chaotic.
barnsandnobel
we can work out a thing, like a pre- investigation to determine legitimacy. Then a regular investigation if needed.
Crowlands
"I oppose this motion." "Then I accuse you of rape. Step down. Does anyone else oppose?"
AntiProtonBoy
Yeah, innocent until proven guilty is a fundamental concept we should all value.
RenegadeSci
Criminality standards aren't the same as a job. The whole "beyond a shadow of a doubt" isn't good when suspecting teacher of molesting, etc
Lycarion
True, but then the claims ought to be decently substantial (e.g. many alleged victims over a number of years) and there ought to be a decent
Lycarion
reason why it ought to be impossible to wait for the outcome of a trial (e.g. because 59/60 accusations are beyond the statute of
AntiProtonBoy
What alternatives would you suggest? Whole point is to test the validity of the accusation and evidence before jailing someone.>
AntiProtonBoy
Otherwise anyone can make random accusations against people and get jailed unfairly. I’d take beyond reasonable doubt system over that one.
RenegadeSci
You're probably a pro-rape/anti-age-of-consent guy because I didn't say anything about jailing people. I'm discussing losing a job.
BootsDusty
clintwestwud
Honestly never knew Kowtow was spelled with a K.
SerialChickenLover
Because fascists don’t have principles. They only care about winning.
rahbeNoodleBandit
Wow, the one thing they can't do. Sad.
Calicoastin818
tronald dump admitted he was a fucking sexual predator those kind of people call themselves RATpublicans
angryCentrist
Whataboutism is not a good look.
Wolvenlight
Whataboutism applies when avoiding accountability by pointing at others, not contrasting oneself's accountability with others lack of it.
angryCentrist
That's exactly what's happening in that image, but you keep telling the Big Lie to yourself and others, if it makes you feel better.
Wolvenlight
I don't see how Trump's stolen election conspiracy theory has anything to do with pointing out Democrats go after Cuomo and Trump while-
Wolvenlight
Republicans only go after Cuomo, but it probably won't convince anyone that war is peace and not-whataboutism is whataboutism.
FukTedCruz
Maybe the like Trump cuz hes the best sexual harasser who has harassed more women than anyone else has harassed?
Ocek
Was he? Honestly with the dirt Epstein probably had on him, sounds like he was Epstein's bitch in that department. To the point he had to
Ocek
hire someone to murder him like a total coward.
A3rdParty
Not sure if I should upvote because true statement, or downvote because I hate it. Well... in the spirit of accepting and acting on truth.+1
BeMyAntithesis
Biden was accused of digitally raping a woman and blocked access to the records of complaints when people tried to look into it.
Mimsey
And? Are you fucking paying attention? That doesn't change the fact that right wingers are amoral scumbags for defending trump.
BeMyAntithesis
No. Fucking. Shit. Who said different. I'm saying you all are a-moral fuckwits for defending one rapist because there's a worse one.
BeMyAntithesis
Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-tara-reade-complaint-secretary-of-senate/ - CBS News
BeMyAntithesis
Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-joe-bidens-senate-papers-arent-public-11588356158 - Wall Street Journal
BeMyAntithesis
Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/joe-biden-tara-reade-complaint-229838 - Politico
BeMyAntithesis
Below is why Dems are just as bad as MAGAts. Not talking the politicians in this instance. I'm talking the followers. You're all down voting
BeMyAntithesis
sources. Deflecting. What-a-bouting. And generally just covering for someone who happens to have picked the D costume.
BeMyAntithesis
None of you have ethics or care about facts. This isn't "policing your own." Your decisions are merely based on convenience.
Wolvenlight
We're downvoting you because you are misrepresenting your sources and twisting facts into falsehoods. For example: "Biden is blocking-
Thornaxe
Source, komrade?
BeMyAntithesis
6 Sources Below. Dem leaning sources.
BeMyAntithesis
Source: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/497163-tara-reades-attorney-asks-biden-to-authorize-search-of-his-senate-papers - The hill
BeMyAntithesis
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/politics/biden-senate-papers/index.html - CNN
Wikipedo
Trump was accused of being a good president. Doesn't mean that's true, either
BeMyAntithesis
6 Sources Below. Dem leaning sources. Trump was a serial assaulter who should be doing life in prison.
WeReallyShookThePillarsOfHeavenDidntWeWang
Legit took me a minute to realize what you meant by “digitally.”
PiggyWobbles
sure grandpa
BeMyAntithesis
6 Sources Below. Dem leaning sources.
FarenDin
Digitally?
ThePastmaster
Using his fingers.
ArkoneAxon
With his fingers. He pulled up Tara Reade's skirt and started fingering her without her permission, then acted hurt when she reacted in a>
ArkoneAxon
less than positive fashion.
BeMyAntithesis
Fingers
FarenDin
Wait what. Does digital not mean what i think it means? Not that I really know what it means.. English not first language
A3rdParty
Digital can mean through electronic means OR using fingers. In this case fingers. Another word for finger is Digit in English.
A3rdParty
I reviewed your sources / found a few of my own. Not seeing the block of information. Not saying it didn't happen but do you have a source?
BeMyAntithesis
"Biden said in an interview with MSNBC Friday morning that the his papers at the University of Delaware will remain sealed because
BeMyAntithesis
they could become political "fodder" during his presidential campaign." From the CNN article listed below. Said during an interview.
A3rdParty
Oh. Sure, he donated a mess of stuff to them to be archived back in 2012 with the understanding there would be no public access until two