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Anna Muzychuk is a person of character and principle
Jun 16, 2021 11:48 AM
bartman2014
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Anna Muzychuk is a person of character and principle
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
This was 2017. She lost in 2019.
Here Wiki says she is #2 in the world
AtsaMattaForMe
Allgoodnameslonggone
Integrity is more important than money! Mad respect for this amazing woman!!!
tenthousandwinters
Saudi Arabia can suck a bag of dicks
rift555
I care.
arginol3
Good for you!
WTFisUnderwear
Checkmate, assholes.
WithoutAPenny
The Exemplar of Integrity. Western Leadership could stand to learn from her shining example.
CrackerUmustBTrippin
Thats a really nice thing that Helena Bonham Carters' daughter is doing.
Qmanchu62
I care...
Beleg7
Besides everything else, also pretty disappointed in anyone who plays in these tournaments knowing why she won't be there to compete.
jamalearljones
I support the cause by not giving attention to any chess event ever for the 34th year now, which happens to be my age as well.
horses2035
Good for you. You make me proud
CoarseAndSalty
Good on you. They will never learn to treat you like an equal if you keep tolerating their behavior. Your absence in their little game means
CoarseAndSalty
more than your victory there.
mytruepersonality
just play the match on chess.com or something. we have the tech.
LordDhuum
since this is old news and some might not know this, but nowadays, you can go out without wearing abaya alone.
bartman2014
Oooh progress, one less thing that women can be persecuted for - welcome to the 21st century
lingusthecunning
The soft bigotry of low expectations of the west suggests that the style of female oppression Saudis practice is just "their culture."
dovo1695
The soft bigotry of low expectations is separating women and men in chess. Her title are for "women's chess". Hypocritical?
MarshallDaemon
Wish you the best. What nonsense.
natabus
Interesting followup fact. Saudi Arabia lost the rights to host Chess Championships at the end of 2018 because it barred Israeli players.
Z3roCo0l
The Queen!
Charcharm
And her gambit.
BennyLarva
great woman ... that primitive pharisean show-off "religion" needs to be stopped. no pasaran!
belovedlover
I wonder why world championship competitions need to be held in countries that don't care about human rights.
ravnsulter
Magnus Carlsen, world champion, refused to play in Saudi Arabia since not all nationalities are allowed to enter. Was moved to russia.
ollikahn
money
MundoCani
As a Formula 1 fan this really irks me. Sport could very easily be setting an example and lead the way. However, you will then get... (1/2)
MundoCani
People moaning keep politics out of sport! Politics can create better human rights but wanting human rights is not being political.
PicassoCT
Why? In my eyes she never lost the title. This year World Championship simply did not happen.
PicassoCT
Although it would have been nice to have a owen moment, the winner of the female playing against the male tournament winner - winning.
Stoffel3000
There are seperate tournaments for men and women?
PicassoCT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Owens
thetaleofbillybobthornton
Nerds are hot
ChilledOutEntertainer
Herds are not
CybrMeow
TheNarwhalicornsDick
Can we chill for like two seconds and appreciate her for literally anything else before we talk about her looks? ?
DaMummy
Did you miss the first word of that three word sentence?
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
Funny that you act so evolved despite your username.
ICheckUsernameAndSuch
Funny that you're such a cunt.
DildoRodeo
That's gonna be a personal foul. Ad hominem, attacking person instead of argument. Disqualified for being a pedant.
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
I'm still here, though. It's like magic!
DildoRodeo
Correct, you're benched. See you next week.
FunSociety
Because usernames define the person behind it? Yours isn't exactly 'evolvedpastvanity' is it? Lmao..
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
Calm down, man. It was just a chop.
FunSociety
It was, as the other poster said, a bad attempt at personal attack. Take your own advice and calm down lol
thetaleofbillybobthornton
Just because I said "nerds are hot" you assume I was referring to her looks?
CaldariBob
It's a package deal.
masteryoplait
TellusEidolon
I'm not hot
masteryoplait
It’s ok, you’re hot on the inside. Being dumb is dangerous
CumsInPies
I like nerds for their brain and also for their brain
017renegade
That was 2017 - but thank you for the news...
DeezN00tz
Sorry. Using Internet Explorer!
thesavagery
It gets reposted about every 3 weeks. At least there is a new photo of her this time.
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
Kevo1991
Ah 2017, feels like ages ago
KT8819
Dude, you realize people put all kinds of stuff on here that is older than 2021? Just saying.
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
So she's is still right...people don't care.
zaqx
She’s is, yes.
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
Lol it only took 7 hours
FrolickingFrolicking
He absolutely would have cropped out the date if it was the bottom. Fortunately it was at the top. Friends don’t let friends crop dates.
bartman2014
Lol I cropped the battery level showing 8% ( because I would get comments for that) all else is unchanged
FrolickingFrolicking
Better be pal, I’m watching for those dates
Iamyourcaptainnow
That story is still awesome. Always will be. Sharing till it's 2069
DancesWithHedgehogs
Especially since women are still treated differently, but even if that is resolved over time.
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
So glad to hear that this is no longer relevant and that Saudi Arabia has changed its ways!
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
did she get her title(s) back? what was the reception of her decision in the chess world?
Ozzy98
She's currently ranked 7th in womens chess, but the title she lost was a special one for speed chess, she ranked 13th last year.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
total chess newb... is the "meta" (using term loosely) different in speed vs normal chess?
CaptainHedgeHog
Yes
lDanielHolm
It requires slightly different skills. Not sure you can say the "meta" is different.
wraiththefourth
Very different. Grand Masters memorize the first 5-10 of the Best moves/layouts, then hit a point where they pause to think. Speed players
wraiththefourth
can make a slightly abstract move during this period and their opponent doesn't have the time to consider the difference. Close too but diff
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
zCougar
OP is from 2014, news was still 3 years ahead
bartman2014
I admit, I didn't look at the date when it was shown to me this evening - but, refreshing to see people of character nonetheless
ZER0C000L
The biggest giveaway it’s old is that it’s a Facebook post and it’s not a picture of minions or a ladbible video.
alltheusernamesitriedweretakensoiusedthisone
I didn't know this story and the message still stands all these years later. Thanks for sharing it
shepahrdjhon
I wonder, how did you come by it now. After looking at FastAI's data ethics in practice, I have become interested in how online extremism >>
shepahrdjhon
>> and propaganda spreads. I am not accusing you of digging up an old article to stir up hate against ALL Muslims/Muslim countries >>
shepahrdjhon
>> how in 2021, did you come by an article from 2017? is someone trying to feed YOU propaganda on your facebook feed so you can spread it
shepahrdjhon
>> and does that person have an ulterior motive.
shepahrdjhon
annnd of course you mass downvote without even considering the questing.
MeekrabJones
Probably because it has nothing to do with Islam? It's about the country of Saudi Arabia. By assuming Saudi criticism=Muslim criticism, 1/
MeekrabJones
You're the only one making it about religion. It's the same as people who assume criticizing the actions of the Israeli government is 2/
017renegade
It's fine - I saw this back then too. But now I wonder if she claimed her title back!
AeonQuasars
She has not. Currently ranked as 7# best woman player and one of 5 that have manage a rating over 2600. Second place in Blitz WC 2019.
TeddyBearWitch
Not yet!
Heavenissize17socks
Has it magically gotten better for women in Saudi Arabia since then?
ttra
It shouldn't even require magic :/
GinTea
...suuurreee.....you want a bit of sarcasm there: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/28/how-was-saudi-arabia-voted-un-womens-panel
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Yeah, they lowered the maximum lenght of wife-beating rods by 2.5 centimeters, and they can order their rape by phone to save on gas money.
DaMummy
Yes. They can now ride INSIDE of car.
fbutt09
They opened a cinema and women can now drive. Baby steps is better than no steps, I suppose
megatool
Only slightly. Some improvements have been women’s right to drive, get a passport, work, and travel abroad, all w/o a male’s permission 1/
Fedotia
Nah, the girls protesting for the right to drive all got kidnapped and vanished from public view.
euphoricopportunity
Is that confirmed with a source, or is that a sarcastic assumption?
Fedotia
It is real sadly. No sarcasm there.
IraqiWalker
Sarcastic assumption. I hate KSA, but those "improvements" are real. Maybe in a few decades they'll catch up with the 1940s
megatool
They still have a lot of repression and these are only baby steps, but it is still progress, if only slightly. 2/2
haggerton
Those are huge steps with real impact. You know what the repressed in my country (Canada) got lately? Some tHoUgHtS aNd pRaYeRs.
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haggerton
Western citizens talk a lot of shit but Western society is stagnant as f. Yes SA has a lot to catch up but at least they're moving forward.
MapleSyrupMafia
It's not like dead people can be fixed, we can only make sure that it stop happening.
Mack1986
Why would that org hold an event is a shithole like Saudi arabia
MantisTobagganMD
I'll give you 2 guesses. (Hint: It's money)
RolandDeschain1970
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InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
You think they give a shit about women players? They do not. If Saudi pays them, they go there.
jyfresh
The chess world is kinda tight on cash and you can offer more prize money and grow the game of chess.
DontTazeMeBrah
HighrockTendales
Where are you from buddy?
hbcjj36710
?
ActionJohnnie
Oil money tries to by respect. Tries.
Jenvas
pro chess is still pretty sexist I reckon, but the money certainly is a factor too
ImprovedLoungewear
They boiled that Crippen kid to death hosting that ridiculous swimming event, totally preventable tragedy
Taokan22
Same reason the US still sells weapons to them, in spite of human rights issues we'll condemn China for. They have a lot of money.
SoSorryImNotEvenCanadian
They pay BIG bucks to events to come to them. There's even a sailing race that will sail up the East Coast of Africa. Cameras will be
SoSorryImNotEvenCanadian
switched off. The near billion dollar boats (with the longest keels ever so not just a simple push) will all be loaded onto bigger armed
SoSorryImNotEvenCanadian
boats. Sailed through the Horn of Africa, then dropped off and be seen sailing into the harbor. Saudi Arabia basically pays so much money it
SoSorryImNotEvenCanadian
boats. Sailed through the Horn of Africa, then dropped off and be seen sailing into the harbor. Saudi Arabia basically pays so much money
SoSorryImNotEvenCanadian
it accounts for most of the funding for the race
popejubal
$$$
shepahrdjhon
ask Trump's buddies in the WWE
ToSisPoS
In Journey of Wrestling, the browser-based wrestling sim, you get the choice to tell them to flip off and shove their money.
sayfcknwhat
On some level it might make Saudi people aware that some Westerners know it's not their people who are c**nts, but the c**ts in power..
rando84
The odd thing about KSA is the general population are even more culturally conservative than the royals. It’s the complete opposite of (1
rando84
the situation in Iran, where a mostly secular population has an extremely conservative government. Both are oppressive dictatorships. (2
tinyfootprints
There is no justification for the human rights abuses there but the country's level of creature comforts is among the best.
Mack1986
Extremely incorrect. 20% in poverty to extreme poverty. US sits at maybe 12% which isn't much better
tinyfootprints
1/2 AFAIK the only ones who remain in poverty are those who flatly refuse to work and are too lazy to even receive government assistance. >
tinyfootprints
2/2 We don't have rights but we do suffer in comfort. With free good quality medical care to boot.
flyingmonkeystick
You should watch Saudi Arabia Uncovered. It’s a documentary on Netflix that shows what it’s like behind the scenes.
LurkerOfDarkness
In SA?
ordomalleus61337
Yeah you can piss off with that
Mack1986
Oh we can just blame the poor? Good to know. Also Saudi Arabia quite literally uses human slavery so fuck that quality of life message
pareidoliaperson
It's not like Ukrain is a pretty progressive itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_women_in_Ukraine
pareidoliaperson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Ukraine
pareidoliaperson
The only diff between Saudi and Ukrain is that the orthodox church is *barely not* in power, but the Islamic Law IS in power in Saudi.
pareidoliaperson
However it's easier to call the country shitty, and not a single powerful party. That requires deeper investigation. Not the trend here.
GinTea
same reason why the FIFA World Cup 2022 is in Qatar?
Goodthingsdontalwayscometoyou
Fuck this shit!
AmotsEinhorc
Userlivewire
FIFA venues are being built by foreign slave labor. Workers are brought to Qater, their passports taken, and they are not allowed to leave.
PepeLePewLooneyTunes
If anyone is interested, you can hear about this in the podcast "Swindled" episode: The Association (FIFA), released in June of 2018
MantisTobagganMD
I really hope some good comes of Eriksen's cardiac arrest. There is no way in fuck we should expect players to play in 50° temps. Hopefully
MantisTobagganMD
Player conditions improve. This past season has been especially rough on players, expected to play far more frequently than normal.
NavaHo07
Wasn't the stadium build like slave conditions and a bunch of people died?
Fedotia
And will be dismantled after the cup since it wont be used anymore.
lingusthecunning
five thousand have died so far
NavaHo07
Any is horrible, 50 is mortifying, I don't have an adjective for 5000
lingusthecunning
Qatar is one of the few nations that still practices outright slavery on a large scale.
SmooshedBananas
That's the case for almost every World Cup, sadly.
crookednixon
The last 3 yes, but I would assume 2006 in Germany, 2002 in S. Korea & Japan, & 1998 in France were fine. 1994 in USA was existing stadiums.
mrlemonofbanana
Qatar is a whole new level. There's something like 4000 dead workers that can be directly linked to poor working conditions.
SmooshedBananas
!!! That's horrible!! I didn't realize it was SO much worse.
Charcharm
Same reason why they ever let Saudi enter a UN women’s rights committee - money and politics.
damogen
Wait… so you only want to improve women’s rights in countries where things are already good?
Rhythmaster
You dont improve things by letting the worst offenders run the committee that is tasked with improving things.
GoodbyeCassini
Think about it for 2 secs. How do you think it's gonna go if a committee of only westerners show up and start telling them to fix things?
Rhythmaster
About the same way it will go if you give saudi veto power. It will go nowhere. Has this committee achieved anything? Have the Saudis agreed
damogen
If you don’t want even include them in the conversation, how do you expect them to improve?
ToastedVanilla
The UN is a joke. China is in the human rights committee lol....
LoligoTX
So are Cuba, Pakistan, and the Russian Federation.
LurkerOfDarkness
The memberships on these committees rotate, between various countries from each region, it's literally designed that way by again the big 5.
Charcharm
Next thing you know Russia is a head of anticorruption committee.
GoldenSun3DS
Next thing you know, a former Verizon executive is the chairman of the FCC.
Steffn
Should we only have Countries at the table which don't have much to improve in the first place?
Mack1986
When the ones doing the worst things are making decisions on whats right and wrong. Maybe
LurkerOfDarkness
Go tell that to the big 5 who insisted it be rotated between all countries and all regions must always be present, then.
Steffn
It's not like they could make such decisions on their own.
commentsivehadafew
Nice to see someone putting their principles ahead of money
hagelslag
If it doesn’t cost you money it is not a principle.
zHurk777
This doesn't make any sense. Why would anyone do that? - donald trump, probably.
Arokthis
See also "wanting to keep genitals intact" and "wanting to keep head attached" for more reasons not to go there.
thomasyomamas
check out Roger Waters response to Zuckerberg wanting to use ABITWp2!
bartman2014
It's a subtle 'thank you Mr Zuckerberg for your offer....' /s
N0HATS
nein999
I mean, if she is that famous she can afford to burn some cash for her ideals. Not all chess players share such luxury.
jjw9
It is also smart. Any perceived violations of Sharia law can have extreme, punitive consequences. Little things we take for granted in …
jjw9
the U.S. for example, as person liberties, can be egregious violations or disrespect in the UAE. Sometimes when the cultural mores are so
jjw9
different and conflicting, it is best not to risk venturing into the other domain.
randomwalrus
Well, to be fair... we never could see John Cena.
Letmelookatpictures
YouTubeRed
lpooptoomuch
YouTubeRed
nsfw
MyNameIsPer
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TitillatingPterodactyl
Dumb question, is there a lot of money in high level chess like this?
RednapxpandeR
Do people make money in local LoL tournaments? Maybe, but not close to the amount of a larger event
forcefulpuspus
Most of the money is at the very very top. Even being a Grandmaster isn't a guarantee of riches. Many make a good living by teaching chess
ump123456
according to 2019 the total purse was 1.6 mil with last place getting 6k and first place getting 110k, this year. its almost the same its /1
ump123456
1.82 mil with 206 placers with the bottom at 3.75k and top still at 110k
TitillatingPterodactyl
Wow I would not have expected that. That’s cool
user3827492
No. Chess grandmasters make money from teaching chess. Tournaments rarely actually give worthwhile money every few years
Justtakealookatthis
There's huge amounts of money in everything even tangentially mainstream when you're playing in the elite league.
blockedtrem
Depends on the size of the check, mate.
Hairarse
Cravanicus
Oh fuck off! +1
CobraCommander1981
teapartyyy
God damn it! Have your upvote..
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
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DesertCruiser
Dillonnnyousonofabitch
PushPullMagnet
Davie504 is that you?
blockedtrem
Dad?
FrozenInCarbonite
bartman2014
TitillatingPterodactyl
Oh you.