Aug 7, 2019 12:33 PM
DrasticBastard
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marilyn_manson
WeirdOneWithaWhip
And blaming the original Doom for the Columbine Massacre. Because shooting 8bit demons is too realistic...
MozzarellaShticks
Can we stop turning this place into the fucking news? I'm trying to have a good time and escape for a minute from all of the shit. Damn.
Ruudeboy
Fear-mongering is profitable, it also keeps focus from other things that might be at the root of the problem.
myheartisstarkmyspiritistargaryen
No one wants to accept responsibility anymore. People dont want to accept they are shitty parents, people, siblings, neighbors, etc
davebeastly
Easier to blame a media type that boomer politicians don't understand than face the reality that they have failed to provided adequate...
... Mental health systems for the younger generation or enforce tighter gun control laws.
TimeAndMemeLordOfGallifrey
I swear there's a wheel of scapegoats for everytime this comes up
Wastyvez
It prevents talking about the real issues.
blackrasputin
It’s always everyone else’s fault except the guy who pulled the trigger.
4hybrid4
I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
TyPierdol
Remember when they blamed Black Sabbath and playing heavy metal records backwards for SECRET messages? Smh
quietm4
Remember when Anakin killed all those younglings, and the blamed the lightsaber?
UncleTomahawk
When wolves attack your flock you don’t blame their teeth...
Reelthreat
Don't worry Marilyn, it's all Trumps fault now.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He's actively contributing to a climate of fear, hate, and violence. If a muslim preacher did the same, the right would want him imprisoned.
FruitChinpoSamurai
LOL the finger pointing is unnecessary unless it’s towards someone we don’t like huh?
DiceyBusiness
Moral panics, everything has been blamed but the actual problem throughout time.
flarflarf
#3 is right on. At some point, we have to start laying some of the blame for mass shootings on the media.
HashtagDadJokes
Murder is the fault of the murderer, if the murderer dies, the problem is solved.
zeroexistence
THIS IS THE NEW SHIT!
fatass1337
Remember when murdering people was blamed on them being witch’s?
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Yes, but we all know how to tell if she is a witch...
kyle2086
Build a bridge out of her!
What if there was no convenient duck on hand?
buttbuttpartywagon
Member when the news was accountable and not just all opinion pieces?
Logwarrior999
53 here, and as I look back, its always been opinion, with selected facts.
Damn, that really sucks.
Being 53 isn't all that bad.
COOL69BRO420ZONE5000
Remember when a 16 year old girl shot up an elementary school in san diego because she didn't like mondays?
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Tell me why.
PenanceArkana
The Boomtown Rats remember.
MidgetRacer8192
Gorgrim
Even had a song about that one
IMayNotReplyToYou
Read that as monkeys..
NotAirConditioned
These moral panics occur regularly. We however can't discount that there are social factors that increase and decrease 1/2
violence. If we just assume the violent individual alone causes violence then we must conclude that conflict in Israel and the Congo 2/3
is just where violent people hang out and everything else is a coincidence or caused by those naturally violent people. And people 3/4
during WW2 just decided for no reason to go around killing people. Big coincidence they did it at the same time. 4/4
eclark53520
Wait..you're trying to equate a random act of violence with a world war? Really? This is some college level flawed logic.
No. I'm using an extreme to clearly show that social forces matter. I nowhere said both were the same.
blueseconomist
Exactly. Normalize the dehumanization of one group and this is what you get. Environment matters.
Both recent shooters grew up in extremely Progressive households. Pretty sure they weren't dehumanizing anyone. One kid rightwing, one left.
I think it's the pharmaceuticals they put kids on, but we are all basically violent monkeys, so there's going to be killings regardless.
isaypoopythingabecausemostofyouannoyme
Remember everyone saying he removed a rib to suck his own dick?
microcactus
It's true.
pandaCookieCat
What if you had gun baskets at the entrance to shops. The everyone could just grab a gun to protect themself with
JasonMaggini
Not sure if sarcasm or NRA member.
When someone starts to shoot up a place, hand grenades is dropped from storage in roof and a scoreboard appears. Speakers play us anthem
SkepticMech
Only if there is a tracker to unlock upgrades at higher kill streaks.
KartFnocker
Over the years it's come out that reporting on Columbine got a ton of stuff wrong, and misconceptions about it persist to this day. Like//
pygmypie
Didn't the media try to push the idea that the shooters were bullied, only to find out years later that they were actually the bullies?
Turns out Harris was a bona fide psychopath http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/04/at-last-we-know-why-the-columbine-killers-did-it.html
Yep, that's a big part of it. The whole "revenge on the jocks" part was almost completely made up
the whole "goths and loners who were part of the Trench Coat Mafia and wanted revenge" thing - false. There's a lot of articles discussing//
orbitn
I liked trenchcoats back then. Had to stop wearing them. It was for the best, really. Now i wear a peacoat
yea, sounds like that worked out for you
the situation and reality if yall want to check it out, google: "columbine shootings reported wrong"
MadDrDrillBit
what HASN'T the media got wrong? thay really just don't care as long as it gets eyeballs
Same in UK. Early newspaper reports on two children who murdered another child said they'd been watching horror films. 1/2
It then turned out they hadn't. 2/2
imgurian88
I'm currently writing a paper over Horror fans & perceptions of them. Got a source for that report? If not: dot for me to google later...
Childs Play 3 was blamed. I think it was the Judge that pointed out horror films were not to blame. Best to look at British national 1/2
This might help https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/born-evil-what-drove-james-bulgers-underage-killers
I studied the James Bulger case as part of my social psychology module. It was a long time ago.
Pray4Mantis
If I’m correct about which case they are talking about - I believe it’s the James Bulger murder
Forgotmyoldaccountbutohwell
Manson gets it. To help the mentally ill, the first step you need to take is to LISTEN TO THEM. Don't just tell them to get over it...
nebuchadnezzarispooping
Remember when you were young and biggest problem was how to not embarrass yourself in front of your crush
beatingoffinfrontofapegasus
im 32 and that's still a problem.
Ironbunny
thats still the biggest problem.
thepronouncer
I did this three times the other day at work. Play it smooth, and it just might turn out ok.
Kingalingding
If you blame anything but the person behind the gun you're a fucking moron
LizardEnterprises
Heres the thing: They have people in other countries, but not mass shootings.
Chipsized
Glad to see you acknowledge that the world is complicated and problems have often many roots while also expressing yourself so elegantly.
If you're that fucked in the head you may do something drastic. But shooting up a school is just disgusting no matter what your problem is.
It is disgusting. Point being is that there are often more factors to blame, along with the perpetrator. It's not as easy as black or white.
or the bomb, gas, car, semi truck, machete, or any other weapon.
You mean there's other ways that murderes can kill people if they don't have access to guns?
Shocking, I know
So let's ban all guns!
JustinSane6
I also remember Manson on Talking Dead where he was so wasted he couldn’t string together 5 words into a sentence.
ishotjfktwice
When was this ? I haven’t seen or heard anything he’s done since the guns god and government tour with John 5
CptBronson
Disagree. He was the only person talking about thematic devices and no one else understood what he meant.
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
TEENAGE ALCOHOLISM IS MANSONS FAULT
UncleChewie
When he showed up on Ride I thought the same thing was going to happen.
Rapturesfall
If you want to hear a pretty good breakdown of it, listen to Last Podcast on the Left, they cover it in a couple episodes, it's pretty good!
DigYourselfBaby
Any chance you could narrow it down a little? There's a lot of programs in the archives of their site. :)
Nevermind. A few more minutes of scrolling, I found episodes 178 & 179, both titled Columbine. Thanks for suggesting it, I'll have a listen.
Let me know what you think! Their humor can sometimes be a little shocking, but they generally do a good job
16min & I find it too much like morning rock radio with all the laughing/talking over each other. i'll try another time. Thanks, tho.
Jagerbeast
Remember when the media quit covering the child porn ring that all the rich and powerful people are getting caught up in?
creamyonions
I remember when people were wondering when the next mass shooting was going to be to draw attention from that. Area 51 stalled it I think.
TotallySaneScientist
I'm curious as to what people that say shit like this actually think should be going on, the news covers the news, not old information.
WhatsYourStoryHomie
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10thlettersauce
I member
MamaJeaux
“Misdirection”.
Blud4BludGod
Child sex trafficking* it wasn't porn it was actual forced sex.
Dagordae
Man, it’s a good thing the investigation is releasing every bit of information they find the second they find it. Otherwise your complaint
Is kind of dumb, expecting them to just constantly repeat what they’ve already reported over and over forever.
DirkNurple
It’s clear now that the Protestant reformation was a false flag operation started by the Catholic Church.
Photeus
AUGACUGAAUCGUCGUAG
Pepperidge farm doesn't even remember that
I didn't even mean to respond to this comment but I guess it still applies
echonite
To be fair, they can't cover it all the time, especially if there is nothing new to report. They would be just repeating the same info over-
eggmuffin
This is exactly what US news does, though.
and over, which itself turns people away. Maybe if they did updates like they say they will all the time but never do, then maybe, but -/
other things happen in the world and need coverage. They can't focus on everything forever.
The focus went to video games, not because anyone believes they are dangerous, but because it's a smoke screen.
It's the current hit topic. Nothing new has come out from the pedo ring.
TheKindlyOnes
.. but they are continuing to cover this stuff with the same "information" over and over... :(
thingymcthingface
are you spouting QAnon stuff?
Beeseik
There's no way to tell what's real and without doing alot of digging. Alot of info being put out there makes people ask the wrong questions.
truemetalman
Possibly the Epstein case? But that's more sex-trafficing than pornography.
Kyodaiki
Epstein and NVIXM. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/nyregion/nxivm-trial-raniere.html
IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
Nah, the Epstein pimping out minors thing.
Q intentionally dumps red herrings that are obvious if you actually read the source material from wikileaks and associated social media.
tannenbanannen
I think they might be talking about the Epstein one, not Pizzagate
Most of those same folks tie together one way or another. Part of it a cult, part is sick freaks, and the rest is political blackmail.
OllieChamatress
Or the franklin cover up
ChronicD
I'm pretty sure pizzagate and Epstein are both factors in a larger problem.
demosthenes89
Except that one was real and one was complete bullshit...
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
A gate made of pizza?!
strcmdman
Sign me up! Too bad the pizzoral college swung the other way though
popejubal
The fake one (Pizzagate) is still getting plenty of coverage, pretending that it's still real and run by the Clintons.
IAmAngry
We all know it's run by Monica and Clinton's ate just her slaves, they just bring her cigars and draw stains on her dresses
kytayn
The real one was merely attended by Bill, not run by him.
Those Reps spreading lies about Clinton, so what if he was a frequent attendant at illegal sex parties? He is Democrat so he is not guilty!
KirkSteel
Hmm, from what I’ve seen, Dems seem fine with bad Dems getting punished. Who’s been defending Bill Clinton? No one.
https://youtu.be/VD70bUFtI7s you can see and hear the blame!! How Dems punish him for what he did! Horrible
The Dems have little qualms about punishing their own for wrongdoing. It's the Reps who ignore everything and cry "Fake news!" all the time.
AnalBeadsPulledOutLikeStartingALawnmower
Please see Ilhan Omar and her many antisemitic tweets that the Dems were too pussy about to even call her out formally.
https://youtu.be/VD70bUFtI7s see how Dems their own for "i did not have sex with that women"
Yes we all saw how med they were when Bill appeared at the DNC (because his wife was just boring) all the "Booing" really show the punish..
quade
The fake ones? Or the Epstein one (without all the fake stuff that fake-Anon was spouting)?
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Epstein one
And when new info comes out, it will be covered. Do you want them to have a reporter constantly on screen repeating ‘Nothing new’ over and
Over 24/7? Investigations take time, and they don’t release everything they find the second they find it as it completely ruins the point.
I was specifying the one they were referring too, I acknowledge that the 24 hr news cycle is flawed, to say tge least
Zreen
Man, the Church of England must feel real awkward right now
To be fair i stole that from Neil Stephenson’s new book. Also, the Church of England isn’t real.
justthebearnecessities
what do you mean the CoE isn't real?
And the Panama papers, where even more rich people were involved in shady financial ventures? A journalist was car-bombed over that.
Panama papers detailed stuff that was all above board, tge paradise papers was the illegal shit
whyexactly
Aside from the $1.2B that was repaid...
MSMLunaticSniper
Never ever, ever, ever, ever source your information from intermediaries that are measured/paid by eyeballs, ratings, likes, etc etc
colonycove
Yep. This applies to several things. This is one reason why it’s so easy to be misinformed. About anything.
YoungJables
https://www.icij.org/investigations/panama-papers/what-happened-after-the-panama-papers/
Flodos
Good.
BalphEubanksLeftNut
Pedophilia and tax evasion are two very different things.
Technically, they didn't do anything illegal. Morally wrong, but not illegal. Makes you wonder about those who make the laws, hmm?
BHPaperstacks
Whoever assasinated the journalist who broke the story definitely did something illegal
The media covers news, it's your job to have a memory that lasts more than a week when there are no new updates.
Rolsun
Positivefeedback
Ha! I understand this reference! Ooo look at me I'm a national treasure charity ambassador. Fuck you Hermione you're as crooked as anyone
4headBruhMoments
memesaremyoxygen
wut
Mxkingjp
Emma Watson was evolved in the Panama papers.
Dahlerbill
The car bombing was more likely a result of that woman’s investigation of the mob. But yeah, shady stuff from big corps.
Cthulhuchooseyou
Who says the Mob and some shady Corps aren't one and the same?
There could definitely be some crossover, but had she only done the Panama paper investigation and not the mob, results may have been diff..
WinningBuckeye
Wait! You are telling me America has a fear mongering mentality where we like to blame things/people without facts? Whack!
vleddex
Whack
AciesGecko
Spaniard here, same here
JohnTheFrost
LokiShade
Humans in general.
rightsideofnowhere
My dude that is a whole human problem lol
Kbantar
Logical fallacies such as the false equivalency is also quite common here in the States.
derJake
Yeah it's not very different across the pond, although we could learn a thing or two more about extreme sensationalism.
Idontlikeolives
But I wanted to Ameri-bash!
warmNchewey
We literally started an entire fucken War with that shit...
SolictedDickPicsUponRequest
Yellow journalism ftw
KnightCommanderRahl
I know man, hey have you heard of this dihydrogen monoxide scandal!?
MisterLemons
It's disgustingly compounded that we've molded this entire country on zero-self-accountability. EVERYTHING is someone elses fault
ICanHasJava
Ow! You can't just go around whacking random people.!
This made me chuckle. Thank you.
prepareyourbutt
We know it exists but the frustration comes from the old people in power who perpetuate/believe
TiroDvD
American media* which is currently dying thanks to the Computer Revolution.
CaelonGmail
Industry disruption can lead to some really nasty panic attacks from the old guard types.
sc363
Mispelled capitalism. It's cool.
SamuraiBatgirl
Which part did he misspell?
Didyouthinkthisthrough
Dying
Remember when murdering kids was blamed on D&D?
arikaiser011337
Can’t say I do but I’ve read about it and seen documentaries
DeadWombat
When it was really the Demogorgon abducting them to the Upside Down?
tenaciousOther
Ah yes the satanic panic when everything dealing with magic was definitely worshiping the devil.
CaptAJRimmer
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26328105
ThisIsTheOneThatCounts
Rimmer, is that you?
Fedotia
I remember when my tennis coach was worried about me when I told him about this hobby of mine.
LoveShovel
Remember when responsible gun owners weren't held accountable for the actions of a manic shitbag? I sure do...
DanFranzen
Obligatory Wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III
JeffGodofBiscuits
Shouldn't have rolled a 1
KillerGymSox
I swear I was just trying to tie my shoes! *stands in a sea of bodies*
DemonFluffer1000
My grandma thought The Beatles were the Devil and we all know only Paul is. Watch out Ringo, said the fat controller.
tangowolf
Remember when Baby Boomers as children got to play with pretend M16s? They don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=due92VSljwA
DukeDarkwood
Remember when it was rock and roll? How about paperback novels?
unknownmale
did they pull out their ak47 and roll a d20 for initiative?
SushiJaguar
There's an absolutely golden made-for-stupid-parents film out there somewhere, wherein a chick gets into LARPing and it's 1/2
written as a gateway to cultist ritualism and insanity. It's like Birdemic and D&D meets Lifetime movies. 2/2
SanityAsylum
It's the devil
kohrah
Oh I member!
WhatShouldIUseForMyUsername
I started playing in 2004, after most of that had ended, but we still had church members come to the library to try and "save" us and (1/2)
Plenty of kids who came once, loved it, then never came again cuz their parents were against it. I'm happy to see it so accepted today (2/2)
sciencebasedlifeform
remember when murdering people was blamed on evil spirits and witches?
Still waiting for my satanic powers and dark magic. ANSWER ME, SATAN! I SACRIFICED A HAMSTER IN YOUR GLORY! AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
ltjektanoporkins
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secondtalon
When we started playing in my late teens, mom was concerned so we played in the living room. She soon kicked us nerds down to the basement.
D&D - Where Math meets shitty improv
,”.
penisjokebackfire
So stranger things will take a turn for the worse
I cast a lightning bolt at a kid ONE TIME, and the conspiracy theories start flying...
Xannacor
Didn't that start because some P.I. was trying to cover up that a kid tried to kill himself because he was gay and blamed it on DnD instead
Yup! A friend of mine and her parents were murdered by her older brother, and people were claiming it was a reenactment of a quest in D&D.
schwanzwurst
And hip-hop and metal?
I grew up when the West Memphis Three witch hunt was in the news.
VodkaReindeer
Hip-hop can't make a murderer because murderers make hip-hop.
Snoron
Tbf, I never murdered anyone before I started listening to metal.
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
Guns don't kill people, rappers do! #GLC
Golgothanworm
That was Tipper Gore.
A10struck
they *still* blame metal. it's my opinion that it's only a matter of time before they label the whole genre as far right
Magnus1478
I remember my grandma told me that D&D would destroy my life or something. but i was too young to know what D&D was.
WalkingHistory
Some people in my hometown were murdered when my dad was in school and everyone blamed it on DnD
a7x12187
I watched a documentary on that a few years ago, ridiculous how white middle America is so terrified of anything that's not the norm
UrKungFuNoGood
good little parrot
TheMysteriousBanana
Dead alewives 'members
besn
Tom Hanks remembers.
GreatOdinsTaint
And comics before that. And big band music before that...round and round it goes. Seeking an easy answer to a complex problem.
sehven
This town's in trouble with a capital 'T' that rhymes with 'P' that stands for pool
TheDanWithNoName
I played D&D in 1984, a friends Uncle pulled us aside & said he burnt his sons D&D books & he said he "heard demons escaping"- no joke.
SloppyUsedCondom
Yeah my mom said d&d was satanic and caused all the suicides in the 80s that were on t.v...
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Salzab
lol I thought it was a parody at first.
gendodidnothingwrong
https://www.chick.com/products/category?type=tracts you should see all the people that are going to hell, according to these comics :D
Br0doSwaggins
Nope, dead serious. Guy wrote a lot of crazy shit: https://www.chick.com/products/category?type=tracts
VitaminJay
I do. Still have scars from the beating I got when my dad found a PHB in my backpack. You kids live in a wonderful golden age of RPGs.
Eleshar24
What the fuck
Yeah. Turns out you don't need to have a PhD to have kids, just occasionally functioning genitals.
DerpKugel
How .... is it legal to beat a child so much they have scars as adults? O_O
uselesstriviaman
Well, it WAS done with jumper cables, soooo...
Welcome to the 1980s, when 'he fell' was still accepted.
Well I'm born in 1980. Beating your kids was illegal where I live back then, only kid I ever knew that was beaten was removed by authorities
Calling CPS in your neighbors because you don't like them was standard in my neighborhood. It made actual abuse go unnoticed by CPS.
MidnightLouie12515
TheHellbilly
Yep, it was a hard thing to be the public enemy number one.
rayneayami
Part of the Satanic Panic.
kojenk
Yeah it ends up the prodigy kid did himself in because everyone was putting a world of pressure on him, abusing him and making his life hell
especially his parents.
LurkingAtTheOffice
Remember when we used to burn people at the stake because they didnt read the same book?
I burned a lot of people for using 4e books, so I get what you're saying.
LoganCreed42
I couldn't play till I was an adult because it was devil worship.
ZT369
It's all because of the violence in video games, if we just get rid of them it would stop the Mass Shootings.
starlord56
And magic the gathering, my sister was banned by my parents for playing with a school group
MaxCrave
The mother of one of the members of my campaign flipped out when she found out he was playing D&D. Went off on a rant about summoning demons
And witchcraft. He's an adult by the way, just incorrectly answered the question, "What are you up to?" over a surprise call from his mother
dejadrew
They have a whole story arc about it on riverdale
EccentricNimoy
And 80s heavy metal!
limbodog
A good friend of mine next door just ghosted me one day. Turned out decades later I find out his mom banned him from hanging out cuz D&D
Duskiewastaken
I had such a conversation about MTG, my father said that "the game tells you to rip your eye off" and that "some actually did it".
MTG? Did you point out the verse in the Bible that says "if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out,"?
That's fitting to this both literally and figuratively
Figured it out: Magic The Gathering
zoeelane201
A year ago I was seeing a physiatrist, and I told her I played D&D. She asked if it gave me nightmares. I no longer see her.
Bigballz
It’s funny to think that psychiatrists can be just as bat shit crazy as anyone else, they just managed to get a degree
AbraCadaverz
A degree doesn’t equate to intelligence. There are plenty of people w/ degrees who are dumb as shit
SakuriRainne
My uncle killed someone in the 80s and played D&D. All the local schools/libraries tried to ban D&D after it became news.
DaveK014
Did he also eat food or breathe air? Surprised they didn't ban that too, clearly air enables 100% of murderers to commit murder
Yeah it's some crap. Like my school in the same area banning Yu-Gi-Oh, Magic, and Pokemon because they "caused fights".
easytigger
Some kid got in fights over Pokémon cards in my primary school. Just general thieving, it'd be phones today or what the youth do.
LionHeart31337
I remember after playing d&d for the first time in 7th grade I loved it. Went home and told my mom. “YOURE NOT ALLOWED TOCPLAY THAT!”
Curli187
Magic the gathering was "gang activity"
furzinderdose
she mistook it for her weekly bd&sm sessions...
BoooBerry
My mom took my 1984 cassette because of the smoking cherub. XD. I eventually stole it back.
CouldCareLessButDoesnt
I was not allowed to play Magic the Gathering lol
well, thats basically dungeons and dragons the strategic card game
It baffles me people make that connection, like WHAT? O_O Scandinavian here btw and the only people I've met like that were Polish catholics
meta666
Yeah I’m “Polish catholic” and it’s true. I told my mum I was looking into Wicca at 15 and she lost her mind.
doyouevenrobot
A lot of my colleagues from outside the US were shocked by how many batshit "christians" there are in the US.
I asked “why?”. “THAT GAME HAS DEEPLY ROOTED SATANIC WORSHIP”. Been playing ever since, still haven’t worshipped satan. What gives?
supergreenpasta
church of satan doesn't even worship satan, don't tell the christian church.
thisgoesto11
You need to get the Devil Worshiping Expansion Pack.
minifridgenthusiast
You need to get a refund presto
bonzaibooty
Roll better stats
cheebody
After seeing some of the people that worship other gods, maybe Satan ain't so bad.
Markamanic
I mean I worship Satan and all but that's completely seperate. DnD is Thursday, worship on sunday
LilandraNeramani
Wait.. you're NOT worshipping Satan? Shit i took a wrong turn somewhere.
TheHawkRules
Technically nobody said you weren’t.
I am currently making a great old one warlock whose patron is Betty white, so maybe it's not as satanic as she thinks
TheRealGoddamnLochNessMonster
You obviously havent played enough. Im gonna recommend playing even more D&D.
Iamkid
“I don’t know or care about what it is therefore I find it a threat.”
NunyaBizness
But, you masturbate, don't you?
hwatL4bloopy
satanism is great though. you should try it.
Obviously you weren't playing as Black Leaf, duh.
wowzies
I guess I should change up how my Paladin of Bahamut is played if i'm suppose to be worshiping Satan.
Tmissfrizzle
Dude the satanic worship guide is one of the key rule books. You're missing out on so much of the game.
TinyLiehon
Satanists are a pretty ok bunch. Mainstream has a lot of hedonism, critical thinking and just taking good care of yourself in it
GingerLaird
It's like how some heavy metal songs have religious inspiration towards being divine warriors who smite the shit out of demons.
Foxlord
my grandma said she never let my dad play because apparently kids were playing in sewers and getting lost.
priestsaresotouchy
This is all Tom Hanks' fault, really.
Roqinn
My deeply religious grandmother got me the basic set when it came out. Afterwards she said I would lose my soul and go to hell and if she 1/
had known that before buying it, she wouldn't have. I then had to explain the game to her. I was 12 at the time.
keyserv
Satan was never even that bad of a guy. Way less of a dick than God, and was really just petulant and jealous.
Satan: hey I think I could do a better job. God: oh REALLY MOTHER FUCKER? ILL SHOW YOU HOW BENEVOLENT I AM! (Damns everyone to hell)?
steenerbeener
This exact thing happened to me too!
Illithidbane
Stepdad said the same. I loaned him my books to look himself. He wouldn't. Just trusted rumors. So I kept playing without telling him.
Zeddicuszull
In my group I have a mormon couple and we joke about this all the time.
silencewillfallwhenthequestionisasked
I’ve just been convinced to play by the children’s minister at our church.
In my group the DM us a jehovah's witness
knotshittingyou
You're not a Warlock of the fiend then, I take it
I rolled up an assassin/archfey warlock and he is one slippery fucker.
SirReginaldVonBartlesbeid
I ended up praying to the Undying, while on my search for the answer of Immortality, due to PTSD evolving into a fear of death.
lordofthedice
Damn. That's a good character premise.
TheBigKahuna
Whereas me, having never played DnD worship baphomet daily!
MasterGinger
*bahamet, praise be unto him
*bahamut, dammit, let us edit comments already imgur
Wmcmwa
Clearly you have been playing DnD subconsciously for years without realising it. I bet you have a high level barbarian you don't know about
Idownvoteifunnyand9gagrepoststoimgur
You're apparently just not doing it right...
Arbitrarynamehere
I know for a fact that my DM sacrificed a handful of virgins to Satan to pass all those DC 17 checks.
StormCrowMith
Agree, everything is devil worshiping if you try hard enough!
EmanonInverse
Devil or Demon though?
ItsSirUnimpressive
Yeah, like them Pokemons. Teaching kids about evolution, that ain't right.
When I was in elementary school, I LOVED the Chick Tract about D&D. I was like HELL YEAH! \m/ https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0046
Kermithasbigsad
https://youtu.be/subQrEPKytA
kodiak931155
200 bucks worth of dnd and i get rid of that bitch marcie? Im sold!
Only available im multiples of 10k.
Ps78dufhdhdhd
Holy shit!
theshinobi23
Sadly, that is a legit pamphlet that I've seen put on windshields in my area.
Oh, it's very legit. Chick Tracts are a huge thing here in the South, even today. But I genuinely loved this one, for all the wrong reasons.
Zixtank
Holy shit this is poison. Also looks like retexting of another comic.
NotSoSmartAlek
Sadly, that's exactly what Chick Tracts are like. And they were his originals, I'm pretty sure - just weird fonting.
asmallcat
Fucking METAL
imgur1stTheory
Your DM didn’t help you unlock real world powers?
PantsGuy
Well. Are your lips chapped?
WeirdOneWithaWhip
And blaming the original Doom for the Columbine Massacre. Because shooting 8bit demons is too realistic...
MozzarellaShticks
Can we stop turning this place into the fucking news? I'm trying to have a good time and escape for a minute from all of the shit. Damn.
Ruudeboy
Fear-mongering is profitable, it also keeps focus from other things that might be at the root of the problem.
myheartisstarkmyspiritistargaryen
No one wants to accept responsibility anymore. People dont want to accept they are shitty parents, people, siblings, neighbors, etc
davebeastly
Easier to blame a media type that boomer politicians don't understand than face the reality that they have failed to provided adequate...
davebeastly
... Mental health systems for the younger generation or enforce tighter gun control laws.
TimeAndMemeLordOfGallifrey
I swear there's a wheel of scapegoats for everytime this comes up
Wastyvez
It prevents talking about the real issues.
blackrasputin
It’s always everyone else’s fault except the guy who pulled the trigger.
4hybrid4
I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
TyPierdol
Remember when they blamed Black Sabbath and playing heavy metal records backwards for SECRET messages? Smh
quietm4
Remember when Anakin killed all those younglings, and the blamed the lightsaber?
UncleTomahawk
When wolves attack your flock you don’t blame their teeth...
Reelthreat
Don't worry Marilyn, it's all Trumps fault now.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He's actively contributing to a climate of fear, hate, and violence. If a muslim preacher did the same, the right would want him imprisoned.
FruitChinpoSamurai
LOL the finger pointing is unnecessary unless it’s towards someone we don’t like huh?
DiceyBusiness
Moral panics, everything has been blamed but the actual problem throughout time.
flarflarf
#3 is right on. At some point, we have to start laying some of the blame for mass shootings on the media.
HashtagDadJokes
Murder is the fault of the murderer, if the murderer dies, the problem is solved.
zeroexistence
THIS IS THE NEW SHIT!
fatass1337
Remember when murdering people was blamed on them being witch’s?
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Yes, but we all know how to tell if she is a witch...
kyle2086
Build a bridge out of her!
fatass1337
What if there was no convenient duck on hand?
buttbuttpartywagon
Member when the news was accountable and not just all opinion pieces?
Logwarrior999
53 here, and as I look back, its always been opinion, with selected facts.
buttbuttpartywagon
Damn, that really sucks.
Logwarrior999
Being 53 isn't all that bad.
COOL69BRO420ZONE5000
Remember when a 16 year old girl shot up an elementary school in san diego because she didn't like mondays?
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Tell me why.
COOL69BRO420ZONE5000
PenanceArkana
The Boomtown Rats remember.
MidgetRacer8192
Gorgrim
Even had a song about that one
IMayNotReplyToYou
Read that as monkeys..
COOL69BRO420ZONE5000
NotAirConditioned
These moral panics occur regularly. We however can't discount that there are social factors that increase and decrease 1/2
NotAirConditioned
violence. If we just assume the violent individual alone causes violence then we must conclude that conflict in Israel and the Congo 2/3
NotAirConditioned
is just where violent people hang out and everything else is a coincidence or caused by those naturally violent people. And people 3/4
NotAirConditioned
during WW2 just decided for no reason to go around killing people. Big coincidence they did it at the same time. 4/4
eclark53520
Wait..you're trying to equate a random act of violence with a world war? Really? This is some college level flawed logic.
NotAirConditioned
No. I'm using an extreme to clearly show that social forces matter. I nowhere said both were the same.
blueseconomist
Exactly. Normalize the dehumanization of one group and this is what you get. Environment matters.
Logwarrior999
Both recent shooters grew up in extremely Progressive households. Pretty sure they weren't dehumanizing anyone. One kid rightwing, one left.
Logwarrior999
I think it's the pharmaceuticals they put kids on, but we are all basically violent monkeys, so there's going to be killings regardless.
isaypoopythingabecausemostofyouannoyme
Remember everyone saying he removed a rib to suck his own dick?
microcactus
It's true.
pandaCookieCat
What if you had gun baskets at the entrance to shops. The everyone could just grab a gun to protect themself with
JasonMaggini
Not sure if sarcasm or NRA member.
pandaCookieCat
When someone starts to shoot up a place, hand grenades is dropped from storage in roof and a scoreboard appears. Speakers play us anthem
SkepticMech
Only if there is a tracker to unlock upgrades at higher kill streaks.
KartFnocker
Over the years it's come out that reporting on Columbine got a ton of stuff wrong, and misconceptions about it persist to this day. Like//
pygmypie
Didn't the media try to push the idea that the shooters were bullied, only to find out years later that they were actually the bullies?
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Turns out Harris was a bona fide psychopath http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/04/at-last-we-know-why-the-columbine-killers-did-it.html
KartFnocker
Yep, that's a big part of it. The whole "revenge on the jocks" part was almost completely made up
KartFnocker
the whole "goths and loners who were part of the Trench Coat Mafia and wanted revenge" thing - false. There's a lot of articles discussing//
orbitn
I liked trenchcoats back then. Had to stop wearing them. It was for the best, really. Now i wear a peacoat
KartFnocker
yea, sounds like that worked out for you
KartFnocker
the situation and reality if yall want to check it out, google: "columbine shootings reported wrong"
MadDrDrillBit
what HASN'T the media got wrong? thay really just don't care as long as it gets eyeballs
NotAirConditioned
Same in UK. Early newspaper reports on two children who murdered another child said they'd been watching horror films. 1/2
NotAirConditioned
It then turned out they hadn't. 2/2
imgurian88
I'm currently writing a paper over Horror fans & perceptions of them. Got a source for that report? If not: dot for me to google later...
NotAirConditioned
Childs Play 3 was blamed. I think it was the Judge that pointed out horror films were not to blame. Best to look at British national 1/2
NotAirConditioned
This might help https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/born-evil-what-drove-james-bulgers-underage-killers
NotAirConditioned
I studied the James Bulger case as part of my social psychology module. It was a long time ago.
Pray4Mantis
If I’m correct about which case they are talking about - I believe it’s the James Bulger murder
Forgotmyoldaccountbutohwell
Manson gets it. To help the mentally ill, the first step you need to take is to LISTEN TO THEM. Don't just tell them to get over it...
nebuchadnezzarispooping
Remember when you were young and biggest problem was how to not embarrass yourself in front of your crush
beatingoffinfrontofapegasus
im 32 and that's still a problem.
Ironbunny
thats still the biggest problem.
thepronouncer
I did this three times the other day at work. Play it smooth, and it just might turn out ok.
Kingalingding
If you blame anything but the person behind the gun you're a fucking moron
LizardEnterprises
Heres the thing: They have people in other countries, but not mass shootings.
Chipsized
Glad to see you acknowledge that the world is complicated and problems have often many roots while also expressing yourself so elegantly.
Kingalingding
If you're that fucked in the head you may do something drastic. But shooting up a school is just disgusting no matter what your problem is.
Chipsized
It is disgusting. Point being is that there are often more factors to blame, along with the perpetrator. It's not as easy as black or white.
Ironbunny
or the bomb, gas, car, semi truck, machete, or any other weapon.
IMayNotReplyToYou
You mean there's other ways that murderes can kill people if they don't have access to guns?
Ironbunny
Shocking, I know
IMayNotReplyToYou
So let's ban all guns!
JustinSane6
I also remember Manson on Talking Dead where he was so wasted he couldn’t string together 5 words into a sentence.
ishotjfktwice
When was this ? I haven’t seen or heard anything he’s done since the guns god and government tour with John 5
CptBronson
Disagree. He was the only person talking about thematic devices and no one else understood what he meant.
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
TEENAGE ALCOHOLISM IS MANSONS FAULT
UncleChewie
When he showed up on Ride I thought the same thing was going to happen.
Rapturesfall
If you want to hear a pretty good breakdown of it, listen to Last Podcast on the Left, they cover it in a couple episodes, it's pretty good!
DigYourselfBaby
Any chance you could narrow it down a little? There's a lot of programs in the archives of their site. :)
DigYourselfBaby
Nevermind. A few more minutes of scrolling, I found episodes 178 & 179, both titled Columbine. Thanks for suggesting it, I'll have a listen.
Rapturesfall
Let me know what you think! Their humor can sometimes be a little shocking, but they generally do a good job
DigYourselfBaby
16min & I find it too much like morning rock radio with all the laughing/talking over each other. i'll try another time. Thanks, tho.
Jagerbeast
Remember when the media quit covering the child porn ring that all the rich and powerful people are getting caught up in?
creamyonions
I remember when people were wondering when the next mass shooting was going to be to draw attention from that. Area 51 stalled it I think.
TotallySaneScientist
I'm curious as to what people that say shit like this actually think should be going on, the news covers the news, not old information.
WhatsYourStoryHomie
.
10thlettersauce
I member
MamaJeaux
“Misdirection”.
Blud4BludGod
Child sex trafficking* it wasn't porn it was actual forced sex.
Dagordae
Man, it’s a good thing the investigation is releasing every bit of information they find the second they find it. Otherwise your complaint
Dagordae
Is kind of dumb, expecting them to just constantly repeat what they’ve already reported over and over forever.
DirkNurple
It’s clear now that the Protestant reformation was a false flag operation started by the Catholic Church.
Photeus
AUGACUGAAUCGUCGUAG
Pepperidge farm doesn't even remember that
AUGACUGAAUCGUCGUAG
I didn't even mean to respond to this comment but I guess it still applies
echonite
To be fair, they can't cover it all the time, especially if there is nothing new to report. They would be just repeating the same info over-
eggmuffin
This is exactly what US news does, though.
echonite
and over, which itself turns people away. Maybe if they did updates like they say they will all the time but never do, then maybe, but -/
echonite
other things happen in the world and need coverage. They can't focus on everything forever.
eggmuffin
The focus went to video games, not because anyone believes they are dangerous, but because it's a smoke screen.
echonite
It's the current hit topic. Nothing new has come out from the pedo ring.
TheKindlyOnes
.. but they are continuing to cover this stuff with the same "information" over and over... :(
thingymcthingface
are you spouting QAnon stuff?
Beeseik
There's no way to tell what's real and without doing alot of digging. Alot of info being put out there makes people ask the wrong questions.
truemetalman
Possibly the Epstein case? But that's more sex-trafficing than pornography.
Kyodaiki
Epstein and NVIXM. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/nyregion/nxivm-trial-raniere.html
IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
Nah, the Epstein pimping out minors thing.
Beeseik
Q intentionally dumps red herrings that are obvious if you actually read the source material from wikileaks and associated social media.
tannenbanannen
I think they might be talking about the Epstein one, not Pizzagate
Beeseik
Most of those same folks tie together one way or another. Part of it a cult, part is sick freaks, and the rest is political blackmail.
OllieChamatress
Or the franklin cover up
ChronicD
I'm pretty sure pizzagate and Epstein are both factors in a larger problem.
demosthenes89
Except that one was real and one was complete bullshit...
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
A gate made of pizza?!
strcmdman
Sign me up! Too bad the pizzoral college swung the other way though
popejubal
The fake one (Pizzagate) is still getting plenty of coverage, pretending that it's still real and run by the Clintons.
IAmAngry
We all know it's run by Monica and Clinton's ate just her slaves, they just bring her cigars and draw stains on her dresses
kytayn
The real one was merely attended by Bill, not run by him.
IAmAngry
Those Reps spreading lies about Clinton, so what if he was a frequent attendant at illegal sex parties? He is Democrat so he is not guilty!
KirkSteel
Hmm, from what I’ve seen, Dems seem fine with bad Dems getting punished. Who’s been defending Bill Clinton? No one.
IAmAngry
https://youtu.be/VD70bUFtI7s you can see and hear the blame!! How Dems punish him for what he did! Horrible
TheWombatStrikesAgain
The Dems have little qualms about punishing their own for wrongdoing. It's the Reps who ignore everything and cry "Fake news!" all the time.
AnalBeadsPulledOutLikeStartingALawnmower
Please see Ilhan Omar and her many antisemitic tweets that the Dems were too pussy about to even call her out formally.
IAmAngry
https://youtu.be/VD70bUFtI7s see how Dems their own for "i did not have sex with that women"
IAmAngry
Yes we all saw how med they were when Bill appeared at the DNC (because his wife was just boring) all the "Booing" really show the punish..
quade
The fake ones? Or the Epstein one (without all the fake stuff that fake-Anon was spouting)?
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Epstein one
Dagordae
And when new info comes out, it will be covered. Do you want them to have a reporter constantly on screen repeating ‘Nothing new’ over and
Dagordae
Over 24/7? Investigations take time, and they don’t release everything they find the second they find it as it completely ruins the point.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
I was specifying the one they were referring too, I acknowledge that the 24 hr news cycle is flawed, to say tge least
DirkNurple
It’s clear now that the Protestant reformation was a false flag operation started by the Catholic Church.
Zreen
Man, the Church of England must feel real awkward right now
DirkNurple
To be fair i stole that from Neil Stephenson’s new book. Also, the Church of England isn’t real.
justthebearnecessities
what do you mean the CoE isn't real?
tannenbanannen
And the Panama papers, where even more rich people were involved in shady financial ventures? A journalist was car-bombed over that.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Panama papers detailed stuff that was all above board, tge paradise papers was the illegal shit
whyexactly
Aside from the $1.2B that was repaid...
MSMLunaticSniper
Never ever, ever, ever, ever source your information from intermediaries that are measured/paid by eyeballs, ratings, likes, etc etc
colonycove
Yep. This applies to several things. This is one reason why it’s so easy to be misinformed. About anything.
YoungJables
https://www.icij.org/investigations/panama-papers/what-happened-after-the-panama-papers/
Flodos
Good.
BalphEubanksLeftNut
Pedophilia and tax evasion are two very different things.
ChronicD
Technically, they didn't do anything illegal. Morally wrong, but not illegal. Makes you wonder about those who make the laws, hmm?
BHPaperstacks
Whoever assasinated the journalist who broke the story definitely did something illegal
TotallySaneScientist
The media covers news, it's your job to have a memory that lasts more than a week when there are no new updates.
Rolsun
Positivefeedback
Ha! I understand this reference! Ooo look at me I'm a national treasure charity ambassador. Fuck you Hermione you're as crooked as anyone
4headBruhMoments
memesaremyoxygen
wut
Mxkingjp
Emma Watson was evolved in the Panama papers.
Dahlerbill
The car bombing was more likely a result of that woman’s investigation of the mob. But yeah, shady stuff from big corps.
Cthulhuchooseyou
Who says the Mob and some shady Corps aren't one and the same?
Dahlerbill
There could definitely be some crossover, but had she only done the Panama paper investigation and not the mob, results may have been diff..
WinningBuckeye
Wait! You are telling me America has a fear mongering mentality where we like to blame things/people without facts? Whack!
vleddex
Whack
AciesGecko
Spaniard here, same here
MSMLunaticSniper
Never ever, ever, ever, ever source your information from intermediaries that are measured/paid by eyeballs, ratings, likes, etc etc
JohnTheFrost
LokiShade
Humans in general.
rightsideofnowhere
My dude that is a whole human problem lol
Kbantar
Logical fallacies such as the false equivalency is also quite common here in the States.
derJake
Yeah it's not very different across the pond, although we could learn a thing or two more about extreme sensationalism.
Idontlikeolives
But I wanted to Ameri-bash!
warmNchewey
We literally started an entire fucken War with that shit...
SolictedDickPicsUponRequest
Yellow journalism ftw
KnightCommanderRahl
I know man, hey have you heard of this dihydrogen monoxide scandal!?
MisterLemons
It's disgustingly compounded that we've molded this entire country on zero-self-accountability. EVERYTHING is someone elses fault
ICanHasJava
Ow! You can't just go around whacking random people.!
WinningBuckeye
This made me chuckle. Thank you.
prepareyourbutt
We know it exists but the frustration comes from the old people in power who perpetuate/believe
TiroDvD
American media* which is currently dying thanks to the Computer Revolution.
CaelonGmail
Industry disruption can lead to some really nasty panic attacks from the old guard types.
sc363
Mispelled capitalism. It's cool.
SamuraiBatgirl
Which part did he misspell?
Didyouthinkthisthrough
Dying
quade
Remember when murdering kids was blamed on D&D?
arikaiser011337
Can’t say I do but I’ve read about it and seen documentaries
DeadWombat
When it was really the Demogorgon abducting them to the Upside Down?
tenaciousOther
Ah yes the satanic panic when everything dealing with magic was definitely worshiping the devil.
CaptAJRimmer
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26328105
ThisIsTheOneThatCounts
Rimmer, is that you?
Fedotia
I remember when my tennis coach was worried about me when I told him about this hobby of mine.
LoveShovel
Remember when responsible gun owners weren't held accountable for the actions of a manic shitbag? I sure do...
DanFranzen
Obligatory Wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III
JeffGodofBiscuits
Shouldn't have rolled a 1
KillerGymSox
I swear I was just trying to tie my shoes! *stands in a sea of bodies*
DemonFluffer1000
My grandma thought The Beatles were the Devil and we all know only Paul is. Watch out Ringo, said the fat controller.
tangowolf
Remember when Baby Boomers as children got to play with pretend M16s? They don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=due92VSljwA
DukeDarkwood
Remember when it was rock and roll? How about paperback novels?
unknownmale
did they pull out their ak47 and roll a d20 for initiative?
SushiJaguar
There's an absolutely golden made-for-stupid-parents film out there somewhere, wherein a chick gets into LARPing and it's 1/2
SushiJaguar
written as a gateway to cultist ritualism and insanity. It's like Birdemic and D&D meets Lifetime movies. 2/2
SanityAsylum
It's the devil
kohrah
Oh I member!
WhatShouldIUseForMyUsername
I started playing in 2004, after most of that had ended, but we still had church members come to the library to try and "save" us and (1/2)
WhatShouldIUseForMyUsername
Plenty of kids who came once, loved it, then never came again cuz their parents were against it. I'm happy to see it so accepted today (2/2)
sciencebasedlifeform
remember when murdering people was blamed on evil spirits and witches?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Still waiting for my satanic powers and dark magic. ANSWER ME, SATAN! I SACRIFICED A HAMSTER IN YOUR GLORY! AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
ltjektanoporkins
secondtalon
When we started playing in my late teens, mom was concerned so we played in the living room. She soon kicked us nerds down to the basement.
secondtalon
D&D - Where Math meets shitty improv
WhatsYourStoryHomie
,”.
penisjokebackfire
So stranger things will take a turn for the worse
LoveShovel
I cast a lightning bolt at a kid ONE TIME, and the conspiracy theories start flying...
Xannacor
Didn't that start because some P.I. was trying to cover up that a kid tried to kill himself because he was gay and blamed it on DnD instead
PenanceArkana
Yup! A friend of mine and her parents were murdered by her older brother, and people were claiming it was a reenactment of a quest in D&D.
schwanzwurst
And hip-hop and metal?
quade
I grew up when the West Memphis Three witch hunt was in the news.
VodkaReindeer
Hip-hop can't make a murderer because murderers make hip-hop.
Snoron
Tbf, I never murdered anyone before I started listening to metal.
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
Guns don't kill people, rappers do! #GLC
Golgothanworm
That was Tipper Gore.
A10struck
they *still* blame metal. it's my opinion that it's only a matter of time before they label the whole genre as far right
Magnus1478
I remember my grandma told me that D&D would destroy my life or something. but i was too young to know what D&D was.
WalkingHistory
Some people in my hometown were murdered when my dad was in school and everyone blamed it on DnD
a7x12187
I watched a documentary on that a few years ago, ridiculous how white middle America is so terrified of anything that's not the norm
UrKungFuNoGood
good little parrot
TheMysteriousBanana
Dead alewives 'members
besn
Tom Hanks remembers.
GreatOdinsTaint
And comics before that. And big band music before that...round and round it goes. Seeking an easy answer to a complex problem.
sehven
This town's in trouble with a capital 'T' that rhymes with 'P' that stands for pool
GreatOdinsTaint
TheDanWithNoName
I played D&D in 1984, a friends Uncle pulled us aside & said he burnt his sons D&D books & he said he "heard demons escaping"- no joke.
SloppyUsedCondom
Yeah my mom said d&d was satanic and caused all the suicides in the 80s that were on t.v...
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Salzab
lol I thought it was a parody at first.
gendodidnothingwrong
https://www.chick.com/products/category?type=tracts you should see all the people that are going to hell, according to these comics :D
Br0doSwaggins
Nope, dead serious. Guy wrote a lot of crazy shit: https://www.chick.com/products/category?type=tracts
VitaminJay
I do. Still have scars from the beating I got when my dad found a PHB in my backpack. You kids live in a wonderful golden age of RPGs.
Eleshar24
What the fuck
VitaminJay
Yeah. Turns out you don't need to have a PhD to have kids, just occasionally functioning genitals.
DerpKugel
How .... is it legal to beat a child so much they have scars as adults? O_O
uselesstriviaman
Well, it WAS done with jumper cables, soooo...
VitaminJay
Welcome to the 1980s, when 'he fell' was still accepted.
DerpKugel
Well I'm born in 1980. Beating your kids was illegal where I live back then, only kid I ever knew that was beaten was removed by authorities
VitaminJay
Calling CPS in your neighbors because you don't like them was standard in my neighborhood. It made actual abuse go unnoticed by CPS.
MidnightLouie12515
TheHellbilly
Yep, it was a hard thing to be the public enemy number one.
rayneayami
Part of the Satanic Panic.
kojenk
Yeah it ends up the prodigy kid did himself in because everyone was putting a world of pressure on him, abusing him and making his life hell
kojenk
especially his parents.
LurkingAtTheOffice
Remember when we used to burn people at the stake because they didnt read the same book?
quade
I burned a lot of people for using 4e books, so I get what you're saying.
LoganCreed42
I couldn't play till I was an adult because it was devil worship.
ZT369
It's all because of the violence in video games, if we just get rid of them it would stop the Mass Shootings.
starlord56
And magic the gathering, my sister was banned by my parents for playing with a school group
MaxCrave
The mother of one of the members of my campaign flipped out when she found out he was playing D&D. Went off on a rant about summoning demons
MaxCrave
And witchcraft. He's an adult by the way, just incorrectly answered the question, "What are you up to?" over a surprise call from his mother
dejadrew
They have a whole story arc about it on riverdale
EccentricNimoy
And 80s heavy metal!
limbodog
A good friend of mine next door just ghosted me one day. Turned out decades later I find out his mom banned him from hanging out cuz D&D
Duskiewastaken
I had such a conversation about MTG, my father said that "the game tells you to rip your eye off" and that "some actually did it".
sehven
MTG? Did you point out the verse in the Bible that says "if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out,"?
Photeus
That's fitting to this both literally and figuratively
sehven
Figured it out: Magic The Gathering
zoeelane201
A year ago I was seeing a physiatrist, and I told her I played D&D. She asked if it gave me nightmares. I no longer see her.
Bigballz
It’s funny to think that psychiatrists can be just as bat shit crazy as anyone else, they just managed to get a degree
AbraCadaverz
A degree doesn’t equate to intelligence. There are plenty of people w/ degrees who are dumb as shit
SakuriRainne
My uncle killed someone in the 80s and played D&D. All the local schools/libraries tried to ban D&D after it became news.
DaveK014
Did he also eat food or breathe air? Surprised they didn't ban that too, clearly air enables 100% of murderers to commit murder
SakuriRainne
Yeah it's some crap. Like my school in the same area banning Yu-Gi-Oh, Magic, and Pokemon because they "caused fights".
easytigger
Some kid got in fights over Pokémon cards in my primary school. Just general thieving, it'd be phones today or what the youth do.
LionHeart31337
I remember after playing d&d for the first time in 7th grade I loved it. Went home and told my mom. “YOURE NOT ALLOWED TOCPLAY THAT!”
Curli187
Magic the gathering was "gang activity"
furzinderdose
she mistook it for her weekly bd&sm sessions...
BoooBerry
My mom took my 1984 cassette because of the smoking cherub. XD. I eventually stole it back.
CouldCareLessButDoesnt
I was not allowed to play Magic the Gathering lol
Ironbunny
well, thats basically dungeons and dragons the strategic card game
DerpKugel
It baffles me people make that connection, like WHAT? O_O Scandinavian here btw and the only people I've met like that were Polish catholics
meta666
Yeah I’m “Polish catholic” and it’s true. I told my mum I was looking into Wicca at 15 and she lost her mind.
doyouevenrobot
A lot of my colleagues from outside the US were shocked by how many batshit "christians" there are in the US.
LionHeart31337
I asked “why?”. “THAT GAME HAS DEEPLY ROOTED SATANIC WORSHIP”. Been playing ever since, still haven’t worshipped satan. What gives?
supergreenpasta
church of satan doesn't even worship satan, don't tell the christian church.
thisgoesto11
You need to get the Devil Worshiping Expansion Pack.
minifridgenthusiast
You need to get a refund presto
bonzaibooty
Roll better stats
cheebody
After seeing some of the people that worship other gods, maybe Satan ain't so bad.
Markamanic
I mean I worship Satan and all but that's completely seperate. DnD is Thursday, worship on sunday
LilandraNeramani
Wait.. you're NOT worshipping Satan? Shit i took a wrong turn somewhere.
TheHawkRules
Technically nobody said you weren’t.
DaveK014
I am currently making a great old one warlock whose patron is Betty white, so maybe it's not as satanic as she thinks
TheRealGoddamnLochNessMonster
You obviously havent played enough. Im gonna recommend playing even more D&D.
Iamkid
“I don’t know or care about what it is therefore I find it a threat.”
NunyaBizness
But, you masturbate, don't you?
hwatL4bloopy
satanism is great though. you should try it.
uselesstriviaman
Obviously you weren't playing as Black Leaf, duh.
wowzies
I guess I should change up how my Paladin of Bahamut is played if i'm suppose to be worshiping Satan.
Tmissfrizzle
Dude the satanic worship guide is one of the key rule books. You're missing out on so much of the game.
TinyLiehon
Satanists are a pretty ok bunch. Mainstream has a lot of hedonism, critical thinking and just taking good care of yourself in it
GingerLaird
It's like how some heavy metal songs have religious inspiration towards being divine warriors who smite the shit out of demons.
Foxlord
my grandma said she never let my dad play because apparently kids were playing in sewers and getting lost.
priestsaresotouchy
This is all Tom Hanks' fault, really.
Roqinn
My deeply religious grandmother got me the basic set when it came out. Afterwards she said I would lose my soul and go to hell and if she 1/
Roqinn
had known that before buying it, she wouldn't have. I then had to explain the game to her. I was 12 at the time.
keyserv
Satan was never even that bad of a guy. Way less of a dick than God, and was really just petulant and jealous.
LionHeart31337
Satan: hey I think I could do a better job. God: oh REALLY MOTHER FUCKER? ILL SHOW YOU HOW BENEVOLENT I AM! (Damns everyone to hell)?
steenerbeener
This exact thing happened to me too!
Illithidbane
Stepdad said the same. I loaned him my books to look himself. He wouldn't. Just trusted rumors. So I kept playing without telling him.
Zeddicuszull
In my group I have a mormon couple and we joke about this all the time.
silencewillfallwhenthequestionisasked
I’ve just been convinced to play by the children’s minister at our church.
LilandraNeramani
In my group the DM us a jehovah's witness
knotshittingyou
You're not a Warlock of the fiend then, I take it
Ironbunny
I rolled up an assassin/archfey warlock and he is one slippery fucker.
SirReginaldVonBartlesbeid
I ended up praying to the Undying, while on my search for the answer of Immortality, due to PTSD evolving into a fear of death.
lordofthedice
Damn. That's a good character premise.
TheBigKahuna
Whereas me, having never played DnD worship baphomet daily!
MasterGinger
*bahamet, praise be unto him
MasterGinger
*bahamut, dammit, let us edit comments already imgur
Wmcmwa
Clearly you have been playing DnD subconsciously for years without realising it. I bet you have a high level barbarian you don't know about
Idownvoteifunnyand9gagrepoststoimgur
You're apparently just not doing it right...
Arbitrarynamehere
I know for a fact that my DM sacrificed a handful of virgins to Satan to pass all those DC 17 checks.
StormCrowMith
Agree, everything is devil worshiping if you try hard enough!
EmanonInverse
Devil or Demon though?
ItsSirUnimpressive
Yeah, like them Pokemons. Teaching kids about evolution, that ain't right.
quade
When I was in elementary school, I LOVED the Chick Tract about D&D. I was like HELL YEAH! \m/ https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0046
Kermithasbigsad
https://youtu.be/subQrEPKytA
kodiak931155
200 bucks worth of dnd and i get rid of that bitch marcie? Im sold!
TheRealGoddamnLochNessMonster
Only available im multiples of 10k.
Ps78dufhdhdhd
Holy shit!
theshinobi23
Sadly, that is a legit pamphlet that I've seen put on windshields in my area.
quade
Oh, it's very legit. Chick Tracts are a huge thing here in the South, even today. But I genuinely loved this one, for all the wrong reasons.
Zixtank
Holy shit this is poison. Also looks like retexting of another comic.
NotSoSmartAlek
Sadly, that's exactly what Chick Tracts are like. And they were his originals, I'm pretty sure - just weird fonting.
asmallcat
Fucking METAL
imgur1stTheory
Your DM didn’t help you unlock real world powers?
PantsGuy
Well. Are your lips chapped?