10432 pts ยท January 11, 2017
Don't worry about it, I've heard much worse from people with much less justification. Best of luck to you.
I never claimed they hold no accountability. I claimed that your framing of the issue is reductive and unproductive, and I stand by that claim.Ranting that if people were smarter they'd just do what you want them to never accomplished anything in politics. The solution is coalition-building and acting in ways consistent with the values of the people you're trying to reach.
I don't think they should lie, but if a politician won't even *say* that they'll do something then they definitely aren't going to do it. Gaza was and is an issue that a lot of progressive voters feel very strongly about. I think it's the issue that lost Harris the election.Was it productive for people to withhold votes in protest? No. Could Harris have easily gotten those votes by promising to take action? Yes.
I agree that withholding your vote in protest is a counterproductive move. Any effort to understand that problem that starts and ends with "voters should be smarter" is reductive and doomed to fail.The Republican party isn't in power because they have better, smarter voters. They're in power because they promise things that their voters want, no matter how objectionable their opposition finds it.
I agree that withholding your vote in protest is a counterproductive move, but it is SUPREMELY unproductive to blame the voters for a political party's failure to earn votes. If I spend the election cycle exclusively courting moderate conservatives, to the extent that I don't even denounce a genocide for risk of alienating people who would never vote for me anyway, why should I feel entitled to votes from progressives?
Companies can influence how their brand names are pronounced but they don't have any authority over it. Unless there's some widespread difference in pronunciation (like "nike" in the UK) people just use the brand pronunciation intuitively or for convenience.
#2 Are we just making fun of this guy for the way he looks? Because that's genuinely pretty impressive.
The reason we treat proper nouns differently from other nouns is to respect the rights of people and places to self-identify. That's not what's happening when the guy who wrote the gif format tries to exert control over how people pronounce it.
Sorry you're getting downvoted for respectfully disagreeing. That's not me doing that.One thing I didn't catch the first time around though is that you call "gif" a proper noun, which it just super isn't.A proper noun refers to a specific, individual person place or thing. Gif is the name of a format, it's more grammatically equivalent to terms like "novel" or "record".
I mean he made it as a pun, a lot of people didn't pronounce it as a pun. He's well within his rights to explain how he intended it to be pronounced but he's mistaken if he thinks he has the authority to call the hard-g pronunciation "wrong"
You're welcome to listen to that guy. I am under no obligation to.
You actually don't need to prove that it's correct if somebody tells you that a hard g is wrong. I can fly to the uk and start yelling that flavor is spelled without a "u" and nobody is under any obligation to defend their spelling.Nobody who defends hard g or soft g is ever wrong. The only people who are wrong are the people who insist that one pronunciation is incorrect.
That's why many people (myself included) instinctively pronounce it with a hard g, but it's not a valid argument for why it's incorrect to pronounce it with a soft g, because it's not incorrect to pronounce it with a soft g. There are just two correct pronunciations.
Yeah, people seem really invested in justifying why their pronunciation is right, and therefore any other pronunciation is wrong, when the only logically consistent argument is that both are correct.(Reply pre-empt lightning round: No, it doesn't matter what the creator said. No, it doesn't matter that "graphic" has a hard g. No, it doesn't matter that you can think of a word that is pronounced with a hard or soft g. So can I, it doesn't change anything.)
It's not about being nice to bad people, it's about being mean to bad people without also being mean to good people you just didn't consider. Mitch McConnel isn't a piece of shit because he looks like a turtle, plenty of good people look like turtles. Mitch McConnel is a piece of shit because of his beliefs, words, and actions.
The problem is that it's ultimately the same as using "gay" as an insult. The underlying assumption is that it's an insult just to be compared to a special needs person.So then, why does it matter who you're using against? You're using a category of human being as an insult. There's no way to only hurt bad people doing that.
I think learning additional languages becomes easier the more languages you know, because most people I know who learn a second language don't stop there.Also it makes sense that once you have the mental framework to hold multiple sets of grammar rules and phonemes it becomes easier to add more.
not unexpected, especially if you're larger in general than her, for a larger person with proportionally smaller hips to fit the clothes of a smaller person with proportionally larger hips
Yeah of course you can make fondue without wine, I'm just saying the use of emulsifiers to make a cheese sauce is hardly new, and comparing ANY use of them to the lowest-quality processed cheeses available in stores is very reductive.
Not a bechamel but Fondue actually uses pretty much identical chemistry to this using emulsifiers present in wine from the fermentation process. Just because we can describe and isolate the specific family of compounds that do this doesn't make it any more "plastic" than it ever has been.The processed cheese in stores is all made of mild cheddar. Understanding the chemistry lets you get the same smooth melting out of gouda, or goat cheese, or a very sharp cheddar, or blue cheese, etc.
(meant to make this one message oops)More saliently though, I think interactions between people in real life are fundamentally very different from broadcasting memes out to the public. It's one thing to snap at an asshole that he's ugly, it's another to yell to the world "have you noticed that bad people are always ugly?"
In my experience it's not exactly the content of your reaction that matters to people, but the intensity of it. It's just that often when you snap you ALSO say the things you've been holding back. Obviously I can't speak to your situation.
It's not about turning the other cheek or being the better person, it's about attacking the root of the problem. If a guy with a receding hairline is mocking my appearance the problem isn't his receding hairline, it's his rancid personality.By going after someone's appearance you're actually letting them off the hook for their actions, while simultaneously lumping in any good, kind people who share those physical traits.
If you mean processed cheese in general, like American cheese (or cheese slices as it's apparently called in the UK), that's technically a completely separate thing from the color issue. Processed cheese can be white, and non-processed cheese can be yellow, you just add the dye to the milk at the start.Regardless, processed cheese is just mild cheddar ground up and mixed with an emulsifier so it melts better, it's really not that bad. Only the really cheap stuff is more milk fat than cheese.
It's cultural context. Apparently there was a kind of arms race in the early 20th century. Higher quality cheese would be slightly yellow, so manufacturers put small amounts of yellow food coloring in their product to make it seem higher quality. Over time competing companies put more and more coloring in until yellow cheese was just normal.It doesn't taste any different, it's just yellow.
technically it's a different video, this is an actual short that he made. I also thought this was a clip from that video until I went to find the link.
This is a short (a stolen one, I might add) but he has a full-length video that basically says exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSfHVTx1WMk
BOOO BOOO POSTING WITHOUT SOURCE C'Mon man it's so easy not to be a dick about this!It's from Adam Ragusea on youtube he has a bunch of great practical home-cooking videos (in contrast with most cooking content that's a little bit more "professional chef")https://www.youtube.com/@aragusea
She's not stopping anyone, if anything it's a street performance with an invitation to participate.
what, that people with weak chins are homophobic?
Don't worry about it, I've heard much worse from people with much less justification. Best of luck to you.
I never claimed they hold no accountability. I claimed that your framing of the issue is reductive and unproductive, and I stand by that claim.
Ranting that if people were smarter they'd just do what you want them to never accomplished anything in politics. The solution is coalition-building and acting in ways consistent with the values of the people you're trying to reach.
I don't think they should lie, but if a politician won't even *say* that they'll do something then they definitely aren't going to do it. Gaza was and is an issue that a lot of progressive voters feel very strongly about. I think it's the issue that lost Harris the election.
Was it productive for people to withhold votes in protest? No. Could Harris have easily gotten those votes by promising to take action? Yes.
I agree that withholding your vote in protest is a counterproductive move. Any effort to understand that problem that starts and ends with "voters should be smarter" is reductive and doomed to fail.
The Republican party isn't in power because they have better, smarter voters. They're in power because they promise things that their voters want, no matter how objectionable their opposition finds it.
I agree that withholding your vote in protest is a counterproductive move, but it is SUPREMELY unproductive to blame the voters for a political party's failure to earn votes. If I spend the election cycle exclusively courting moderate conservatives, to the extent that I don't even denounce a genocide for risk of alienating people who would never vote for me anyway, why should I feel entitled to votes from progressives?
Companies can influence how their brand names are pronounced but they don't have any authority over it. Unless there's some widespread difference in pronunciation (like "nike" in the UK) people just use the brand pronunciation intuitively or for convenience.
#2 Are we just making fun of this guy for the way he looks? Because that's genuinely pretty impressive.
The reason we treat proper nouns differently from other nouns is to respect the rights of people and places to self-identify. That's not what's happening when the guy who wrote the gif format tries to exert control over how people pronounce it.
Sorry you're getting downvoted for respectfully disagreeing. That's not me doing that.
One thing I didn't catch the first time around though is that you call "gif" a proper noun, which it just super isn't.
A proper noun refers to a specific, individual person place or thing. Gif is the name of a format, it's more grammatically equivalent to terms like "novel" or "record".
I mean he made it as a pun, a lot of people didn't pronounce it as a pun. He's well within his rights to explain how he intended it to be pronounced but he's mistaken if he thinks he has the authority to call the hard-g pronunciation "wrong"
You're welcome to listen to that guy. I am under no obligation to.
You actually don't need to prove that it's correct if somebody tells you that a hard g is wrong. I can fly to the uk and start yelling that flavor is spelled without a "u" and nobody is under any obligation to defend their spelling.
Nobody who defends hard g or soft g is ever wrong. The only people who are wrong are the people who insist that one pronunciation is incorrect.
That's why many people (myself included) instinctively pronounce it with a hard g, but it's not a valid argument for why it's incorrect to pronounce it with a soft g, because it's not incorrect to pronounce it with a soft g. There are just two correct pronunciations.
Yeah, people seem really invested in justifying why their pronunciation is right, and therefore any other pronunciation is wrong, when the only logically consistent argument is that both are correct.
(Reply pre-empt lightning round: No, it doesn't matter what the creator said. No, it doesn't matter that "graphic" has a hard g. No, it doesn't matter that you can think of a word that is pronounced with a hard or soft g. So can I, it doesn't change anything.)
It's not about being nice to bad people, it's about being mean to bad people without also being mean to good people you just didn't consider. Mitch McConnel isn't a piece of shit because he looks like a turtle, plenty of good people look like turtles. Mitch McConnel is a piece of shit because of his beliefs, words, and actions.
The problem is that it's ultimately the same as using "gay" as an insult. The underlying assumption is that it's an insult just to be compared to a special needs person.
So then, why does it matter who you're using against? You're using a category of human being as an insult. There's no way to only hurt bad people doing that.
I think learning additional languages becomes easier the more languages you know, because most people I know who learn a second language don't stop there.
Also it makes sense that once you have the mental framework to hold multiple sets of grammar rules and phonemes it becomes easier to add more.
not unexpected, especially if you're larger in general than her, for a larger person with proportionally smaller hips to fit the clothes of a smaller person with proportionally larger hips
Yeah of course you can make fondue without wine, I'm just saying the use of emulsifiers to make a cheese sauce is hardly new, and comparing ANY use of them to the lowest-quality processed cheeses available in stores is very reductive.
Not a bechamel but Fondue actually uses pretty much identical chemistry to this using emulsifiers present in wine from the fermentation process. Just because we can describe and isolate the specific family of compounds that do this doesn't make it any more "plastic" than it ever has been.
The processed cheese in stores is all made of mild cheddar. Understanding the chemistry lets you get the same smooth melting out of gouda, or goat cheese, or a very sharp cheddar, or blue cheese, etc.
(meant to make this one message oops)
More saliently though, I think interactions between people in real life are fundamentally very different from broadcasting memes out to the public. It's one thing to snap at an asshole that he's ugly, it's another to yell to the world "have you noticed that bad people are always ugly?"
In my experience it's not exactly the content of your reaction that matters to people, but the intensity of it. It's just that often when you snap you ALSO say the things you've been holding back. Obviously I can't speak to your situation.
It's not about turning the other cheek or being the better person, it's about attacking the root of the problem. If a guy with a receding hairline is mocking my appearance the problem isn't his receding hairline, it's his rancid personality.
By going after someone's appearance you're actually letting them off the hook for their actions, while simultaneously lumping in any good, kind people who share those physical traits.
If you mean processed cheese in general, like American cheese (or cheese slices as it's apparently called in the UK), that's technically a completely separate thing from the color issue. Processed cheese can be white, and non-processed cheese can be yellow, you just add the dye to the milk at the start.
Regardless, processed cheese is just mild cheddar ground up and mixed with an emulsifier so it melts better, it's really not that bad. Only the really cheap stuff is more milk fat than cheese.
It's cultural context. Apparently there was a kind of arms race in the early 20th century. Higher quality cheese would be slightly yellow, so manufacturers put small amounts of yellow food coloring in their product to make it seem higher quality. Over time competing
companies put more and more coloring in until yellow cheese was just normal.
It doesn't taste any different, it's just yellow.
technically it's a different video, this is an actual short that he made. I also thought this was a clip from that video until I went to find the link.
This is a short (a stolen one, I might add) but he has a full-length video that basically says exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSfHVTx1WMk
BOOO BOOO POSTING WITHOUT SOURCE C'Mon man it's so easy not to be a dick about this!
It's from Adam Ragusea on youtube he has a bunch of great practical home-cooking videos (in contrast with most cooking content that's a little bit more "professional chef")
https://www.youtube.com/@aragusea
She's not stopping anyone, if anything it's a street performance with an invitation to participate.
what, that people with weak chins are homophobic?