118879 pts · February 11, 2014
Then I urge the Algerian party to sue France.Still does not clear up why sub Sahara Africa is worse off than ever.
Can’t be in the article, cuz that concerns with colonial deeds, France is no colonial power since the seventies.
Behind the German nobles stood every noble of this planet.They are all one family, incestuous feckers.
The subject, I might remind you, was why Africa doesn’t get better after 60 years of freedom. France is your thing, not mine, I’m German and they won’t build the next gen hey with us, so feck em.
No, back then it was our own feudal elites, who ruled the world and fucked with us and we fucked back.We domesticated the colonisers.Africa should, if it wants to, consider that.Without us (not me, my ancestors) fighting the power, Africa would still be divided by colonisers.
You know the history of Liberia? Why and what it is?It’s the place the US wanted to „export“ their free slaves to. It never got messed with from the classical colonisers.
And that was last year or what?Come on.The countries of west Africa will certainly not suffer that much under the atrocities of France’s war of suppression, thousands of km to the north.By the way, North Africa is something else.They get their shit together, a lot better than the south.Still corrupt but at least every few decades they kill their corrupt elites.
The colonisers did that. They stopped at least 60 years back.Africa won’t improve if they go on search the responsibility here amongst us Europeans.They will go on enrich their elites and be poor themselves.O wonder how often they will shake their fist at us, until they recognise what responsibility and independence means.
How can the souvereign of a country (the ppl) be the passive part?They are the millions, the warlords are the few.We did it 150 years back.Africa has to do it now.That is something no external power can do.
We have 34k foreign troops on our soil.Without our “ok” to that.Are we (Germany) independent or is the US responsible for all our good and bad!
You claimed.Or was it in that bbc article?
50’s to 70’s https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-African-Countries-Independence-Dates
Then why let the ppl of that country the warlord get away with it?The capitalist deals with the powers that are.Here in EU Orban gets lots of money from Russia, but after Sunday, he will not get away with it.
Or a Chinese, or an American.In Kongo it’s mostly American.In other places it’s mostly china.And in a few places it’s France.
Ok, I’m fine with that.We are Germany.We are the only country who paid reparations.But those crimes are long gone.Now Africa is free for 60 years…. And it’s getting even more shitholey. Blaming us obv does not help Africa.
Provide sources first of all.
Indepemdence is self government. No foreign intervention in domestic or foreign politics. They are obviously not independent of the billions we give them every year in helpIf you or they don’t want to be dependent on that help, stop it.
Their leaders not leases.
A capitalist signes those contracts.We did that to ourselves about 150 years ago.Then we burned down some villas and some capitalists, and now they treat us with at least some respect.Now it’s africas turn.If their leases let themselves be bought that easily, it’s not the fault of the buyer.It’s the fault of the electorate.
We were not talking about North Africa, were we?I wasnt. Sorry I did not make that clear.It’s all about subsahara Africa. North Africa has highways, trains and hospitals…. Some built by us, some built by themselves.
Good, good.North Africa is ahead of the pack.
So what? Independence means responsibility. If they elect corrupt fecks, capitalism will milk that country dry. So does china, the US, Russia, Europe, even India.They need to get that checked.It’s not our beer.
Then that dependence was by their own making. Some corrupt incompetent leader singed those treaties and got rich off them, while the country starves. Not Europe’s problem, not of Europe’s making.Their corruption is homegrown.
My point was and still is: 60 years of independence. Europe is not the problem anymore. Independence means responsibility for their own affairs. If they want change, they maybe start there.
Everything has more than one reason.One of the dominant reasons for African countries staying or turning into shitholes, is the unchecked corruption. South Africa’s rolling power outages come to mind.
Dude/dudette. That is some “source: trust me bro” bs. Don’t go that low pls.
You were insinuating stuff, as o said before and started insulting me when o called that.
That was the example you brought up.So, let’s explore what my country, Germany did.We almost eradicated the Herero in Deutsch Süd-West.We paid reparations on our own free decision.Several billion euro.Now, let’s look at what the UK or Belgium did.Or better even, look at Liberia.Free from day one.Must be a paradise, not?
You are calling me ignorant, because o don’t see this your way. Even when you couldn’t provide proof for your claims.Be honest, that was a personal attack, like “I don’t wanna talk to you, you are stupid anyway”Weak.
“France leveraging it’s military superiority” were you own words. So, stop whining
Then I urge the Algerian party to sue France.
Still does not clear up why sub Sahara Africa is worse off than ever.
Can’t be in the article, cuz that concerns with colonial deeds, France is no colonial power since the seventies.
Behind the German nobles stood every noble of this planet.
They are all one family, incestuous feckers.
The subject, I might remind you, was why Africa doesn’t get better after 60 years of freedom. France is your thing, not mine, I’m German and they won’t build the next gen hey with us, so feck em.
No, back then it was our own feudal elites, who ruled the world and fucked with us and we fucked back.
We domesticated the colonisers.
Africa should, if it wants to, consider that.
Without us (not me, my ancestors) fighting the power, Africa would still be divided by colonisers.
You know the history of Liberia? Why and what it is?
It’s the place the US wanted to „export“ their free slaves to. It never got messed with from the classical colonisers.
And that was last year or what?
Come on.
The countries of west Africa will certainly not suffer that much under the atrocities of France’s war of suppression, thousands of km to the north.
By the way, North Africa is something else.
They get their shit together, a lot better than the south.
Still corrupt but at least every few decades they kill their corrupt elites.
The colonisers did that. They stopped at least 60 years back.
Africa won’t improve if they go on search the responsibility here amongst us Europeans.
They will go on enrich their elites and be poor themselves.
O wonder how often they will shake their fist at us, until they recognise what responsibility and independence means.
How can the souvereign of a country (the ppl) be the passive part?
They are the millions, the warlords are the few.
We did it 150 years back.
Africa has to do it now.
That is something no external power can do.
We have 34k foreign troops on our soil.
Without our “ok” to that.
Are we (Germany) independent or is the US responsible for all our good and bad!
You claimed.
Or was it in that bbc article?
50’s to 70’s
https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-African-Countries-Independence-Dates
Then why let the ppl of that country the warlord get away with it?
The capitalist deals with the powers that are.
Here in EU Orban gets lots of money from Russia, but after Sunday, he will not get away with it.
Or a Chinese, or an American.
In Kongo it’s mostly American.
In other places it’s mostly china.
And in a few places it’s France.
Ok, I’m fine with that.
We are Germany.
We are the only country who paid reparations.
But those crimes are long gone.
Now Africa is free for 60 years…. And it’s getting even more shitholey.
Blaming us obv does not help Africa.
Provide sources first of all.
Indepemdence is self government. No foreign intervention in domestic or foreign politics. They are obviously not independent of the billions we give them every year in help
If you or they don’t want to be dependent on that help, stop it.
Their leaders not leases.
A capitalist signes those contracts.
We did that to ourselves about 150 years ago.
Then we burned down some villas and some capitalists, and now they treat us with at least some respect.
Now it’s africas turn.
If their leases let themselves be bought that easily, it’s not the fault of the buyer.
It’s the fault of the electorate.
We were not talking about North Africa, were we?
I wasnt. Sorry I did not make that clear.
It’s all about subsahara Africa. North Africa has highways, trains and hospitals…. Some built by us, some built by themselves.
Good, good.
North Africa is ahead of the pack.
So what? Independence means responsibility. If they elect corrupt fecks, capitalism will milk that country dry. So does china, the US, Russia, Europe, even India.
They need to get that checked.
It’s not our beer.
Then that dependence was by their own making. Some corrupt incompetent leader singed those treaties and got rich off them, while the country starves. Not Europe’s problem, not of Europe’s making.
Their corruption is homegrown.
My point was and still is: 60 years of independence. Europe is not the problem anymore. Independence means responsibility for their own affairs. If they want change, they maybe start there.
Everything has more than one reason.
One of the dominant reasons for African countries staying or turning into shitholes, is the unchecked corruption. South Africa’s rolling power outages come to mind.
Dude/dudette. That is some “source: trust me bro” bs. Don’t go that low pls.
You were insinuating stuff, as o said before and started insulting me when o called that.
That was the example you brought up.
So, let’s explore what my country, Germany did.
We almost eradicated the Herero in Deutsch Süd-West.
We paid reparations on our own free decision.
Several billion euro.
Now, let’s look at what the UK or Belgium did.
Or better even, look at Liberia.
Free from day one.
Must be a paradise, not?
You are calling me ignorant, because o don’t see this your way. Even when you couldn’t provide proof for your claims.
Be honest, that was a personal attack, like “I don’t wanna talk to you, you are stupid anyway”
Weak.
“France leveraging it’s military superiority” were you own words. So, stop whining