2532 pts ยท December 12, 2016
a clear out group to power. They scape goat the other, parade around acting as if they are the solution to the problems and then inevitably begin a system of extermination towards the others that have been long since demonized. And the democrats will not stop this. Even if given all the power in the world, they would not stop this slide. They would not fix the core of the system. They would halt the slide briefly in place until the Republicans again started the downward momentum.
time one of these feckless cowards is elected to office and they do nothing. Hold none of the republicans accountable. Do nothing to fix the system and offer only minor varnishes to the status quo that people hate.. this leads to either voter apathy or worse nihilism. It is these feelings that Trump energized in the Republican party as fascists have always done throughout history. They seize upon the failings of Liberal Democracy and ride a revanchist sentiment about a mythologized past with>
fact. Because the captial class has bought them they will continue to sign off on the exact same decisions that the Republican party does. It is the very system of power that they serve that is the rot at the heart of society that must be fundamentally torn down and rebuilt anew. They are as much enemies to that as the Republicans are. It is further the fact that given how half assed they are, electing and supporting democrats right now will only serve to increase voter apathy because each>
My point has consistently been that the democrats are shit.. and they are. They are weak, pathetic and corrupt. They are collaborationist scum. BUT the republicans are active fascists looking to eradicate people, so in this case 90% Hilter is better than 100% Hitler. The republican party needs to be utterly annihilated. BUT. The democratic party is not a vehicle to that change. It isn't. They would rather lose and have the entire country devolve into the 4th Reich than acknowledge that clear>
I never said I didn't vote for Kamala, you assumed I didn't.
I do vote and did in both elections. Now as for Hillary and Biden. Not going to make excuses for Bernie losing but it wasnt a fair playing field in either case but he lost. It was obvious Hillary was the worst possible candidate to run against Trump.. and she lost. Biden ran in a year where just about anyone would have beaten Trump..as seen by how he did next to nothing. But then he wasted 4 years in office then decided to try again when it was obvious he wasnt fit. He handed us Trump 2.0
So, even in one of your gotcha links I stated that Republicans are worse than democrats. Democrats do nothing to address the underlying rot that is the system of capital distribution. They keep running 'moderate' candidates who dont speak to the needs of voters.Simply being better than Republicans isnt enough. They have to actually do something with the power they get, when they get. But the powers that be in the DNC woild rather lose to Republicans than look away from Capital.
Yeah because her foreign policy had NOTHING at all in similarity to Joe Biden who was enthusiastically supplying Israel the tools of genocide, even bypassing congress to give them more. Face the truth, even if kamala had won she would have done nothing to reign in Israel either who wants to war with every middle eastern nation in order to expand their fascist ethnostate. This only stops when Israel is stopped and no one in any position of power is willing to do that.
Kamala and the establishment dems are just as owned by Israel, AIPAC, and the MIC. They absolutely fucking would have and you are delusional if you think anything else. You can note that the only blood complaint they've come up about with the way the war was done was that Trump didn't file the proper fucking paperwork.. as if that were the reason to be opposed to this fucking shit show.
You are absolutely delusional if you think our situation with regards to Iran would be drastically different under Kamala. She was just as beholden to Israel and the forces of the MIC as Trump ever was. It may have been waged more competently but we would still be bombing Iran. And yes, I voted for her, before you start that track. Because in the end she was better than Trump. But like all establishment dems she would rather lose to fascism that address the underlying rot at the heart of this.
You seem to be delusionally optimistic about A) there being a next administration as this one may very well suspend meaningful elections, or B) even if A doesn't come to pass a democratic administration willing to hold Republicans accountable for anything.
He is literally being pushed as the next candidate and leftists are already being blamed for what will likely be his ultimate defeat against Vance.
Exactly why I say blue maga. Because I literally called Republicans murderous fascists I that critique. And said that democrats are better. I just also said that democrats are also bad so that must mean "both sides" ism. In order to make any progress, we have to identify the problem. And the democrats are a part of the problem. The Republicans are Nazis. They are the evil Satan of our day. Democrats are the judges in Wiemar who constantly let the Nazis walk free or have house arrest in castles
Im only independent in the sense that democrats are a moderate corporatist party that acts as a rachet to stop any actual progressive policies from making things better. The Republicans are murderous fascists and the democrats are mostly complicit beaurucrats in service of the oligarchs. Democrats are marginally better in the sense 90% Hitler is better than 100% Hitler.
It does. It is the groups of individuals that promote the democratic party in the same way MAGA does for Trump. Think Newsom is an unelectable slime ball with no deeply held beliefs and will throw any group under the bus at the drop of a hat? Must want a Vance presidency.. Think Biden screwed the party and country by deciding to run again, locking out a robust primary? Trump supporter Think democrats shouldn't support a genocidal regime with tax dollars? Reason dems lose repeatedly. Etc.
They are getting downvoted because Blue MAGA can't accept any criticisms, no matter how completely valid, of establishment dems or Biden.
And yet he tried to anyways.. locking the nomination to Kamala because there was no time to run a primary. It was clear from the beginning that Biden would lose.. and yet he tried to run anyways and fucked all of us.
Why... the fuck... didn't this all get released, at the bare minimum, during the campaign? You could have potentially smothered this administration before it ever took power.. fuck Joe Biden.. fuck Merrick Garland..
#12 Surely the Gestapo wouldn't be exterminating Jews if they were better trained! The training is the problem with the Gestapo not their mere existence!
But he was having all of those issues and then made the decision to seek a second term and lock the primary and party onto him. And that's before all of his massive missteps at president which essentially guaranteed a second Trump presidency and the continuing dissolution of the nation-state into a fascist oligarchy under Republicans. So, yeah.. fuck Biden.
First they have power, they surrender a lot of it needlessly because essentially they are token opposition. Sure they can get a win here on Trans rights and while that may be good it does nothing to address the fundamental and underlying problems created by the system. Just like with ICE, their solution does not address the fundamental problem of having the gestapo in the first place, but to pretend that organization can be honorable in any way or deserves to exist. >
Its not propaganda.. ICE is out murdering, raping, and kidnapping people supported and funded by the republicans.. and the best response dems have is.. they need better training.. like da faq? Their position is so fucking weak it will only enable ICE to continue even in the unlikely scenario dems get power back.
Can they stop claiming that the problem with the gestapo is they aren't trained well enough?
If raw sewage is pouring into drinking water and the solution you propose, as one of the two people in charge of it, doesn't involve stopping the flow of sewage into the drinking water.. you are a part of the problem. Just because the other person is the one pouring the sewage into the water, doesn't mean you don't bear responsibility too. \
We are firmly past the point where peaceful demonstrations will have any effect on this regime or deter it. Unless the use of actual violence is on the table and the fascists are made to fear it, then they will only continue to grow more and more emboldened.
They just need more training! /s
I'm sure that more training would make them behave better. Because what this country needs is a more competent Gestapo. /s
Maybe Elba is far enough away..
Because placing dictators on Islands has never gone wrong in history.
Why, the fuck, did this take until now to become public? This looks so fucking bad it should have been released years ago.. or at the very least in 2024. You could have drowned the campaign air with talk of Trump fucking kids in October.. fucking weakass, corrupt dems. Cover for Gaza and this shit..
a clear out group to power. They scape goat the other, parade around acting as if they are the solution to the problems and then inevitably begin a system of extermination towards the others that have been long since demonized.
And the democrats will not stop this. Even if given all the power in the world, they would not stop this slide. They would not fix the core of the system. They would halt the slide briefly in place until the Republicans again started the downward momentum.
time one of these feckless cowards is elected to office and they do nothing. Hold none of the republicans accountable. Do nothing to fix the system and offer only minor varnishes to the status quo that people hate.. this leads to either voter apathy or worse nihilism.
It is these feelings that Trump energized in the Republican party as fascists have always done throughout history. They seize upon the failings of Liberal Democracy and ride a revanchist sentiment about a mythologized past with>
fact. Because the captial class has bought them they will continue to sign off on the exact same decisions that the Republican party does. It is the very system of power that they serve that is the rot at the heart of society that must be fundamentally torn down and rebuilt anew. They are as much enemies to that as the Republicans are.
It is further the fact that given how half assed they are, electing and supporting democrats right now will only serve to increase voter apathy because each>
My point has consistently been that the democrats are shit.. and they are. They are weak, pathetic and corrupt. They are collaborationist scum. BUT the republicans are active fascists looking to eradicate people, so in this case 90% Hilter is better than 100% Hitler. The republican party needs to be utterly annihilated.
BUT. The democratic party is not a vehicle to that change. It isn't. They would rather lose and have the entire country devolve into the 4th Reich than acknowledge that clear>
I never said I didn't vote for Kamala, you assumed I didn't.
I do vote and did in both elections.
Now as for Hillary and Biden. Not going to make excuses for Bernie losing but it wasnt a fair playing field in either case but he lost. It was obvious Hillary was the worst possible candidate to run against Trump.. and she lost.
Biden ran in a year where just about anyone would have beaten Trump..as seen by how he did next to nothing.
But then he wasted 4 years in office then decided to try again when it was obvious he wasnt fit. He handed us Trump 2.0
So, even in one of your gotcha links I stated that Republicans are worse than democrats.
Democrats do nothing to address the underlying rot that is the system of capital distribution. They keep running 'moderate' candidates who dont speak to the needs of voters.
Simply being better than Republicans isnt enough. They have to actually do something with the power they get, when they get. But the powers that be in the DNC woild rather lose to Republicans than look away from Capital.
Yeah because her foreign policy had NOTHING at all in similarity to Joe Biden who was enthusiastically supplying Israel the tools of genocide, even bypassing congress to give them more.
Face the truth, even if kamala had won she would have done nothing to reign in Israel either who wants to war with every middle eastern nation in order to expand their fascist ethnostate.
This only stops when Israel is stopped and no one in any position of power is willing to do that.
Kamala and the establishment dems are just as owned by Israel, AIPAC, and the MIC. They absolutely fucking would have and you are delusional if you think anything else.
You can note that the only blood complaint they've come up about with the way the war was done was that Trump didn't file the proper fucking paperwork.. as if that were the reason to be opposed to this fucking shit show.
You are absolutely delusional if you think our situation with regards to Iran would be drastically different under Kamala. She was just as beholden to Israel and the forces of the MIC as Trump ever was. It may have been waged more competently but we would still be bombing Iran.
And yes, I voted for her, before you start that track. Because in the end she was better than Trump. But like all establishment dems she would rather lose to fascism that address the underlying rot at the heart of this.
You seem to be delusionally optimistic about A) there being a next administration as this one may very well suspend meaningful elections, or B) even if A doesn't come to pass a democratic administration willing to hold Republicans accountable for anything.
He is literally being pushed as the next candidate and leftists are already being blamed for what will likely be his ultimate defeat against Vance.
Exactly why I say blue maga. Because I literally called Republicans murderous fascists I that critique. And said that democrats are better. I just also said that democrats are also bad so that must mean "both sides" ism.
In order to make any progress, we have to identify the problem. And the democrats are a part of the problem. The Republicans are Nazis. They are the evil Satan of our day.
Democrats are the judges in Wiemar who constantly let the Nazis walk free or have house arrest in castles
Im only independent in the sense that democrats are a moderate corporatist party that acts as a rachet to stop any actual progressive policies from making things better.
The Republicans are murderous fascists and the democrats are mostly complicit beaurucrats in service of the oligarchs. Democrats are marginally better in the sense 90% Hitler is better than 100% Hitler.
It does. It is the groups of individuals that promote the democratic party in the same way MAGA does for Trump.
Think Newsom is an unelectable slime ball with no deeply held beliefs and will throw any group under the bus at the drop of a hat? Must want a Vance presidency..
Think Biden screwed the party and country by deciding to run again, locking out a robust primary? Trump supporter
Think democrats shouldn't support a genocidal regime with tax dollars? Reason dems lose repeatedly.
Etc.
They are getting downvoted because Blue MAGA can't accept any criticisms, no matter how completely valid, of establishment dems or Biden.
And yet he tried to anyways.. locking the nomination to Kamala because there was no time to run a primary. It was clear from the beginning that Biden would lose.. and yet he tried to run anyways and fucked all of us.
Why... the fuck... didn't this all get released, at the bare minimum, during the campaign? You could have potentially smothered this administration before it ever took power.. fuck Joe Biden.. fuck Merrick Garland..
#12 Surely the Gestapo wouldn't be exterminating Jews if they were better trained! The training is the problem with the Gestapo not their mere existence!
But he was having all of those issues and then made the decision to seek a second term and lock the primary and party onto him.
And that's before all of his massive missteps at president which essentially guaranteed a second Trump presidency and the continuing dissolution of the nation-state into a fascist oligarchy under Republicans.
So, yeah.. fuck Biden.
First they have power, they surrender a lot of it needlessly because essentially they are token opposition. Sure they can get a win here on Trans rights and while that may be good it does nothing to address the fundamental and underlying problems created by the system. Just like with ICE, their solution does not address the fundamental problem of having the gestapo in the first place, but to pretend that organization can be honorable in any way or deserves to exist. >
Its not propaganda.. ICE is out murdering, raping, and kidnapping people supported and funded by the republicans.. and the best response dems have is.. they need better training.. like da faq? Their position is so fucking weak it will only enable ICE to continue even in the unlikely scenario dems get power back.
Can they stop claiming that the problem with the gestapo is they aren't trained well enough?
If raw sewage is pouring into drinking water and the solution you propose, as one of the two people in charge of it, doesn't involve stopping the flow of sewage into the drinking water.. you are a part of the problem. Just because the other person is the one pouring the sewage into the water, doesn't mean you don't bear responsibility too. \
We are firmly past the point where peaceful demonstrations will have any effect on this regime or deter it. Unless the use of actual violence is on the table and the fascists are made to fear it, then they will only continue to grow more and more emboldened.
They just need more training! /s
I'm sure that more training would make them behave better. Because what this country needs is a more competent Gestapo. /s
Maybe Elba is far enough away..
Because placing dictators on Islands has never gone wrong in history.
Why, the fuck, did this take until now to become public? This looks so fucking bad it should have been released years ago.. or at the very least in 2024. You could have drowned the campaign air with talk of Trump fucking kids in October.. fucking weakass, corrupt dems. Cover for Gaza and this shit..