3830 pts · December 14, 2015
Formerly: *lilymegami
Paintball or laser guns?I like laser guns cuz they don’t litter
You just want to be morally superior here, and you aren’t; I hope someone plays the Six Flags theme song outside your house on repeat every day for a year
Damn it I don’t want to keep talking; the only thing you would be actually seeing is someone getting aroused. Ffs I don’t understand why you aren’t getting that You aren’t upset at seeing sexual activity, you are upset at being made to think about sex and I am sorry, maybe you are ace-spec, but you are always witness to it, even if you don’t realize itThat’s the reason this is such a hard conversationSex isn’t just sex, and you have pushed this even after I agreed “we could just put up sign”
Again, you cannot provide any evidentiary reason besides “my feelings say this is moral” that is not an argument Good bye
It’s only different because you say it is; you have given no reason other than “i think it’s icky and so do some other undetermined amount of people” meaning you are expecting people to operate around your sense of disgust and repugnance.I am done having this conversation because that is all this comes back toI want actual reasons that aren’t the same rhetoric used to slowing oppress a myriad of groups throughout history Good bye
Is this what you tell fat people who wear revealing clothing in the summer?Cuz that is when I have heard the statement “not everyone wants to see that” most commonly used
No no, this is a town we’re public sex is fully ok because everyone who established that town says soNo discretion, just “this is a public play town; don’t want to see it, don’t visit”Like the Beached in Brazil
You are literally using, point for point, the same rhetoric used against queer people when I was growing up, and fighting with me over a scenario that was made up *by a furry artist*Like, this isn’t even us arguing over a video clip of people actually having done this, you are upset over a thought crime
Have you even ever actually been exposed to this?The only time I ever knew people we’re doing public play is because I ran into a friend at the bar who drunkenly confessed they were wearing a cage; it then sparked a conversation amongst several patrons for me to discover at least half a dozen people in that place regularly did that or wore plugs/vibrators; i never know unless it gets mentioned, and it’s always in whispersI wonder how many people pass you every day like that?
Well of course there isn’t any scientific literature on this to refer to, so I can only speculate But improved mental health outcomes from a reduced sense of sexual repression, and a healthier relationship with sex overall; sex becomes less taboo to talk about because it’s not a Dirty Private Thing and people can feel invited to talk about a normal, healthy, beyond human activity about what they like and not; ectSex Clubs are a specific vibe and not everyone wants to go all inNow I wonder…
If this was simple, it wouldn’t be debated
And if people want to establish a *whole town* where that is the norm, how do you communicate that, huh?Suddenly people are off in the woods living on a commune being called A Sex Cult
*why* don’t you want to see it?I don’t want to see trash cans while walking down the street either, so no more public trash cans; there are plenty of trash cans in restaurants that will let you use them, and you can carry your trash until you get homeNevermind the fact that public trashcans are known to reduce litter and such, I don’t like the way they look and I don’t want to think about trash while going about my dayIf you ever need to see if you are logically fallacious, change topics
To mirror your statement:You know full on intercourse is different than public arousal (which is what this is)You also never asked me if intentionally walking through public dressed to arouse others counts as sexual activity, and as mentioned, for legal purposes, i do need to know
I am asking for a consistent logic and a very good line so i can write legislation about this Do you, or do you not want good laws that cover this sort of thing?This is why they haven’t written any laws about anything; no one can find a consensus and we just keep swinging aimlessly hoping it’ll fix the problem instead of talking about our feelings around sexYou turned it back on be “why do you have to be an asshole” because even asking apparently makes you uncomfortable Can’t ask why ig
I’m not, I’m asking for you to examine why it makes you uncomfortable in the first place
Most bedroom doors in the houses i have lived in do not have locks; the *did* have one on my bedroom door as a kid, but it was a safety one (no key, just a hole for a safety release) and my brother learned to open it at like 3 years old
I don’t actually; the Foot Loose town was a real town
Don’t get me started on *rap* music
If someone is playing WAP?
That’s what the woods is supposed to be, but now you have changed…Cuz it’s a *low* chance of someone noticing And now public vibrators are back on the table, since it’s so easy to be quiet during sex
Especially, *especially* because we aren’t even talking about physical *exposure* we’re talking about tantalizationPlease unpack your purity culture programming, it’s the only way (scientifically) to actually do something about sexual abuse(Idk if you know, but the number 1 indicator someone will become sexually abusive is sexual repression)
Also, i used to live in places where the walls were so thin that i could hear people’s normal conversations through the walls; i knew my neighbors had an orgy because i heard it. I heard the sexy giggling, the *weird* silence followed by heavy breathing, moaning, and wet sounds You have lived a privileged life if you have always had a reasonable expectation to not be subjected to sexual activity you didn’t want to…It’s a nuisance at worst, not a moral failing
So no more street music? I am trying to make you see how this logic as *already* permeated our society and is making us miserable because this exact logic is already used to get rid of anything interesting and novelAnd if I’m *enjoying* it, yeah, it is actually kinda hard to stay quiet, otherwise what I actually do is dissociate, get edged for however long, and then never orgasmIn fact, maybe this attitude is why women don’t orgasm. Cuz their too busy being ashamed for fucking moaning
If i have sex in my car in the middle of the woods because i live with my ex due to financial reasons and am trying to be considerate of them,Same issue for my partner, because that’s what it like in 2026, maybe we’re students and we live in the dormAt what point do the woods become public? How reasonable of a chance of someone wandering upon you do you have to have before it’s not ok?Is it considered a crime if my child brother doesn’t knock before entering?
Oooooh now you gotta ask your roommate for permission to masturbate in case you make too much noiseAlso, make sure to warn the neighbors downstairs not to be home all day, the walls are thinPeople are experiencing my sex without consent again cuz i moan too loudYou probably hate flash mobs (they can suck, i admit, has to be done right)
See it’s different *to you*Some people think it’s just as offensive *That’s* the point hereWhy does it make you uncomfortable? Because we think of sex as dirty and wrong and inherently something to hide; this is a culture issue, not a moral one, like you keep claiming. New question; is it wrong to dress in a sexually attractive way, knowing that you are perfectly covered, but will cause a wave on boners behind you?
So if the vibrator is quiet and i keep quiet and calm, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it? That’s how the vast majority of public play is; it is so much more common than you think, like wearing a thong to work
I also need to know when exactly it becomes “sexual activity” because when exactly does it become prostitution?
So no gay kissing in public?People are only uncomfortable because we live in a society that tells us to beAlso, technically restaurants are private establishments… we can just start having places posts signs that say it is a “public play friendly” place and by entering you understand that Kink Is Happening…Still curious about whether butt plugs and chastity cages/belts are considered playing or accessorizing
Paintball or laser guns?
I like laser guns cuz they don’t litter
You just want to be morally superior here, and you aren’t;
I hope someone plays the Six Flags theme song outside your house on repeat every day for a year
Damn it I don’t want to keep talking; the only thing you would be actually seeing is someone getting aroused. Ffs I don’t understand why you aren’t getting that
You aren’t upset at seeing sexual activity, you are upset at being made to think about sex and I am sorry, maybe you are ace-spec, but you are always witness to it, even if you don’t realize it
That’s the reason this is such a hard conversation
Sex isn’t just sex, and you have pushed this even after I agreed “we could just put up sign”
Again, you cannot provide any evidentiary reason besides “my feelings say this is moral” that is not an argument
Good bye
It’s only different because you say it is; you have given no reason other than “i think it’s icky and so do some other undetermined amount of people” meaning you are expecting people to operate around your sense of disgust and repugnance.
I am done having this conversation because that is all this comes back to
I want actual reasons that aren’t the same rhetoric used to slowing oppress a myriad of groups throughout history
Good bye
Is this what you tell fat people who wear revealing clothing in the summer?
Cuz that is when I have heard the statement “not everyone wants to see that” most commonly used
No no, this is a town we’re public sex is fully ok because everyone who established that town says so
No discretion, just “this is a public play town; don’t want to see it, don’t visit”
Like the Beached in Brazil
You are literally using, point for point, the same rhetoric used against queer people when I was growing up, and fighting with me over a scenario that was made up *by a furry artist*
Like, this isn’t even us arguing over a video clip of people actually having done this, you are upset over a thought crime
Have you even ever actually been exposed to this?
The only time I ever knew people we’re doing public play is because I ran into a friend at the bar who drunkenly confessed they were wearing a cage; it then sparked a conversation amongst several patrons for me to discover at least half a dozen people in that place regularly did that or wore plugs/vibrators; i never know unless it gets mentioned, and it’s always in whispers
I wonder how many people pass you every day like that?
Well of course there isn’t any scientific literature on this to refer to, so I can only speculate
But improved mental health outcomes from a reduced sense of sexual repression, and a healthier relationship with sex overall; sex becomes less taboo to talk about because it’s not a Dirty Private Thing and people can feel invited to talk about a normal, healthy, beyond human activity about what they like and not; ect
Sex Clubs are a specific vibe and not everyone wants to go all in
Now I wonder…
If this was simple, it wouldn’t be debated
And if people want to establish a *whole town* where that is the norm, how do you communicate that, huh?
Suddenly people are off in the woods living on a commune being called A Sex Cult
*why* don’t you want to see it?
I don’t want to see trash cans while walking down the street either, so no more public trash cans; there are plenty of trash cans in restaurants that will let you use them, and you can carry your trash until you get home
Nevermind the fact that public trashcans are known to reduce litter and such, I don’t like the way they look and I don’t want to think about trash while going about my day
If you ever need to see if you are logically fallacious, change topics
To mirror your statement:
You know full on intercourse is different than public arousal (which is what this is)
You also never asked me if intentionally walking through public dressed to arouse others counts as sexual activity, and as mentioned, for legal purposes, i do need to know
I am asking for a consistent logic and a very good line so i can write legislation about this
Do you, or do you not want good laws that cover this sort of thing?
This is why they haven’t written any laws about anything; no one can find a consensus and we just keep swinging aimlessly hoping it’ll fix the problem instead of talking about our feelings around sex
You turned it back on be “why do you have to be an asshole” because even asking apparently makes you uncomfortable
Can’t ask why ig
I’m not, I’m asking for you to examine why it makes you uncomfortable in the first place
Most bedroom doors in the houses i have lived in do not have locks; the *did* have one on my bedroom door as a kid, but it was a safety one (no key, just a hole for a safety release) and my brother learned to open it at like 3 years old
I don’t actually; the Foot Loose town was a real town
Don’t get me started on *rap* music
If someone is playing WAP?
That’s what the woods is supposed to be, but now you have changed…
Cuz it’s a *low* chance of someone noticing
And now public vibrators are back on the table, since it’s so easy to be quiet during sex
Especially, *especially* because we aren’t even talking about physical *exposure* we’re talking about tantalization
Please unpack your purity culture programming, it’s the only way (scientifically) to actually do something about sexual abuse
(Idk if you know, but the number 1 indicator someone will become sexually abusive is sexual repression)
Also, i used to live in places where the walls were so thin that i could hear people’s normal conversations through the walls; i knew my neighbors had an orgy because i heard it. I heard the sexy giggling, the *weird* silence followed by heavy breathing, moaning, and wet sounds
You have lived a privileged life if you have always had a reasonable expectation to not be subjected to sexual activity you didn’t want to…
It’s a nuisance at worst, not a moral failing
So no more street music? I am trying to make you see how this logic as *already* permeated our society and is making us miserable because this exact logic is already used to get rid of anything interesting and novel
And if I’m *enjoying* it, yeah, it is actually kinda hard to stay quiet, otherwise what I actually do is dissociate, get edged for however long, and then never orgasm
In fact, maybe this attitude is why women don’t orgasm. Cuz their too busy being ashamed for fucking moaning
If i have sex in my car in the middle of the woods because i live with my ex due to financial reasons and am trying to be considerate of them,
Same issue for my partner, because that’s what it like in 2026, maybe we’re students and we live in the dorm
At what point do the woods become public? How reasonable of a chance of someone wandering upon you do you have to have before it’s not ok?
Is it considered a crime if my child brother doesn’t knock before entering?
Oooooh now you gotta ask your roommate for permission to masturbate in case you make too much noise
Also, make sure to warn the neighbors downstairs not to be home all day, the walls are thin
People are experiencing my sex without consent again cuz i moan too loud
You probably hate flash mobs (they can suck, i admit, has to be done right)
See it’s different *to you*
Some people think it’s just as offensive
*That’s* the point here
Why does it make you uncomfortable? Because we think of sex as dirty and wrong and inherently something to hide; this is a culture issue, not a moral one, like you keep claiming.
New question; is it wrong to dress in a sexually attractive way, knowing that you are perfectly covered, but will cause a wave on boners behind you?
So if the vibrator is quiet and i keep quiet and calm, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it?
That’s how the vast majority of public play is; it is so much more common than you think, like wearing a thong to work
I also need to know when exactly it becomes “sexual activity” because when exactly does it become prostitution?
So no gay kissing in public?
People are only uncomfortable because we live in a society that tells us to be
Also, technically restaurants are private establishments… we can just start having places posts signs that say it is a “public play friendly” place and by entering you understand that Kink Is Happening…
Still curious about whether butt plugs and chastity cages/belts are considered playing or accessorizing