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”Hey everyone, the chairman of the FCC, is very likely to announce a vote to gut neutrality, possibly as soon as Nov. 22nd. Once a vote is called, it will become much, much harder to stop ISPs from charging us all extra fees to access streaming services like YouTube -- and they can demand payment from independent artists and labels, stifling independent voices
But there’s still hope. The most effective way to can stop this is by driving as many calls as possible to our Senators and Representatives, now through Nov. 22nd.
We're getting word that there are lawmakers who are sympathetic to our cause and considering taking action to slow the FCC down, but they won’t act unless they get more phone calls from constituents. Also, if your think your Rep's opposed to net neutrality, its all the more reason to call them. Those Reps need to hear your voice more than anyone.
Please, head over to https://www.battleforthenet.com , and give your Senators and Reps a call telling them to stop the FCC from slashing Title II net neutrality protections. The time to act is now.
To reach the call in line directly by phone, call 202-930-8550.
When you get through to your Rep's office, introduce yourself, be polite, and say:
”I support "Title Two" net neutrality rules and I urge you to oppose the FCC's plan to repeal them. Specifically, I'd like you to contact the FCC Chairman and demand he abandon his current plan.“
Thanks.“
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Repost from Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/comments/7abhke/the_fcc_is_expected_to_announce_a_vote_to_gut_net by user /u/JPTIII.
Cheesecakecrush
Urgent: Your level of concern over net neutrality, regardless of what it is, is not strong enough for me
Tygermann
I wrote my congressman...got a form letter back saying (for all effect) "That's nice, I do whatI want so shut up, and vote for me" fuggim
ZombieTrooper
I live in EU so i cant really support in anyway, pretty sad indeed.
Skizzlesnap
Well given that Representation doesn’t give two shits about what their constituents say, my guess is we’re screwed.
cerseilannisterscheekbones
Truth is, our representatives are almost all paid off by various corporations. The needs or concerns of the citizen are not their priority.
thechelonianshelmet
The problem for a lot of people is we're not american, so we can't do anything about it, unless poolfunding assasins is available? :)
bob493
https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/internet-speech/what-net-neutrality
bob493
For those that want a "no bullshit" explanation of what this stuff is. Most sites are really obnoxiously worded and propaganda based.
buttholewink
Yeah I'm not really paying attention.
Plaaant
Fucking AGAIN?!
Hendlton
Yup.
T3n3br1s
Who else is not from the US but freakin out anyways because shit they decide over there tends to spread?
AntiEvil007
As an Australian I say god speed Americans god speed!
youandmeandthedevilmakescovfefe
Down with the empire!
tusig1243
If you live in Oklahoma, your senator and congressmen are in favor of eliminating title II. Call them!!!
khora
I don't live in the US. Can I ignore this and enjoy my gigabit fiber connection?
MitchHon
Thinking that our representatives actually care about what their constituents thinks is just sad. They only care about their own bottom line
SciGuy
One might notice that it's one side in particular for whom that's the case.
MitchHon
All politicians only care about their own bottom line. To think otherwise is very naive.
Bibulus
One side's a hell of a lot worse, but the other's still not perfect.
Seedster5
Senators made up their minds. They don't give two shits about you. Stop pretending that any of this is democratic
Hendlton
Worst case scenario is that nothing happens change. That is sure to happen if we do nothing. Might as well try and expose the extent >
Hendlton
of government corruption.
mdtrep
gofccyourself.com
devasto
I've already contacted my reps; who have all pretty much said they're not changing their mind on gutting net neutrality. What do I do now?
HieronymousFlex
Sacrifice them to Yog-Sothoth
ErikaLight
The only viable option
BaconAndBoobsAndBackflips
Build a good speech, reach to your surrounding, organize protests, sue them, start a riot, elect a golden retriever as senator
devasto
At the same time?
thegameball
In reverse order
devasto
So, elect a golden retriever, riot, sue it, protest against it, THE reach out to my surrounding an build a good speech?
FrigginCornflakes
sounds to me like a solid 3 act movie script right there. with a bit of workshopping, we just might save Hollywood
urfirstborn
Is it only the U.S. or the whole world?
obamalamadingdongditch
It’ll have a global effect one way or another
SwedishBalls
And the rest of the world can do what?
Chpgmr
Watch America collapse
HieronymousFlex
Jack shit, my dude
Rebonack
Impose sanctions on the United States. Money is the only thing some folks listen to.
Dyslexicbirch
Australia already has the shitist Internet in the world this will just fuck it up more
ReverendShitlord
Until next month when they decide to go ahead with their agenda anyhow.
Ravenbreaker
Christ. How many fuckin' times we gotta beat these bastards back?
Bibulus
Until either they win or we manage to get a system in place that encourages competition between ISPs
Ravenbreaker
Lack of competition breeds stagnation. If we want our tech and quality of life to increase we need competition.
Ravenbreaker
But its hard to do that now days. If a company like Microsoft of Apple tried to start up today, they wouldnt be able to from regulations.
Bibulus
I know, that's why I said that we need to encourage competition, or else the anti-neutrality ISPs will eventually win.
Ravenbreaker
Right no, sorry I was agreeing with you. Not ignoring that you said it.
ertlif
I hate this whole subject. I am way too negative to think this will end up well
zippydee
Yea I can't help but feel it's ultimately a losing battle, they clearly want to pass it, and by hook or crook they will
Hendlton
Same here. There's no system in place to stop them from doing this if they just decide to say "Fuck the public, too much money on the line."
MasterPrime
There is. It's called the Second Amendment. You can only push loyal people so far before they break.
Hendlton
Yes, because people are going to shoot people and risk their lives because the internet bill costs a bit more now.
MasterPrime
People would when the government is show to be fully in the pocket of corporations and no longer by, for, and of the people.
Hendlton
People have known that for years and I don't think anyone has ever even tried doing anything about it. This might cause protests, if that.
CrossBetween
Why are 87 people downvoting this?
Hendlton
Because there's a post like this every few weeks and people who don't understand are tired of it.
dave262
Because there’s more to the story that OP always leaves off. Dig deeper, this issue is not being illustrated accurately. Be skeptical.
Hendlton
People usually follow the path of least resistance. Do hours of research on the fundamental issues of US politics or look at funny memes. >
Hendlton
I wonder which most people choose.
CrossBetween
Can I fax my questions?
CrossBetween
Wanna elaborate?
Noob3rts
The problem with Net Neutrality isn't that IF it succeeds but WHEN it will succeed. People are tired. Congress won't touch it either. Fuck.
Ackes4019
and they will NEVER stop lobbying or throwing millions of dollars at it until they win. They can just hire fresh people to continue.
25schmeckles
I want to know what I can do about this so we don't have to keep revisiting this stupid shit every few months
thesmelge
You can't do anything. It will pass eventually because your politics system is corrupt and doesn't care about you.
SoftcoreFavorites
SciGuy
Constant vigilance is the price of liberty.
WarlockSniper
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance?
Noob3rts
The only way for the Americans to stop this bullshit is to get Congress to pass a law and they won't because it is a controversial issue.
xrufus7x
It doesn't help that Republicans are against it and control the majority right now.
digifuzzy
Relevant: Net Neutrality II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vuuZt7wak
xObserverx
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LittleWheelsAndCactuss
Navlida
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ImHereFortheTittiesandKitties
Very helpful ty
DostoevskyDisciple
i just love this guy tbh
LaLaLoveBug
Gofccyourself.com
digifuzzy
No guarantee's. FCC had a "DDOS" attack (supposedly). Ars Technica and others were suing for access to log data to (dis)prove claim.
digifuzzy
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/fcc-has-no-documentation-of-ddos-attack-that-hit-net-neutrality-comments/
z3lfmoord
Choke me daddy
NicoleRosieRose
On the FCC site I see, "All information submitted, including names and addresses, will be publicly available via the web." Is this for real?
digifuzzy
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/psa-commenting-on-fcc-net-neutrality-plan-could-make-your-e-mail-public/
NicoleRosieRose
Just email then? My real concern is my home address...
digifuzzy
I trust Ars Technica on this one.
TheAvarice
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IAmThePrincess
This same post seems to come up, like, once a week. Do they just keep having referendums until they get the answer they want...???
supersomatic
every time john oliver tells people to be angry about something they get their pitchforks out
IAmThePrincess
I can't stand John Oliver. That sentiment isn't popular with the Imgur masses though.
Cheomesh
Yeah. On a long enough timeline, it will be repealed.
YewTube
Yes. Eventually people will not be paying enough attention and that's how they win.
Fengor
Yup, saw this happen with a road the city wanted to build through a subdivision which would have resulted in most of the neighborhood (1/3)
Fengor
being bulldozed. Home owners fought it for 20 years through multiple votes, but in the end lost because the city figured out how to (2/3)
ExquisiteBoobies
How to...? How to what? Don't keep us hanging!
Fengor
legally call for a vote without the home owners knowing. The project passed without a single dissenting vote that time. (3/3)
Hendlton
Kind of. This is the same one we've been fighting for a few months because nothing has been decided yet. They come up every couple years.
BaconAndBoobsAndBackflips
Pretty much yes. What else should they do with their time? Solve the country multiple problems? That's not the politicians's job!
VaderFan2187
Exactly! Who do these citizens think they are, asking politicians to solve problems! We didn't elect them for that! /s
rusrsdude
It started with games first, didn't it? DLC's? Now phones: jackless phone? Buy an adaptor! Now the internet: want fast youtube? Pay 50 bucks
supersomatic
Its almost like having money gets you stuff, and people without money don't want to not have stuff
someONEgood
Who'd of thought the butterfly effect would start with horse armor. Thanks Bethesda.
gaenaralhonk
Who'dve*
TheGamingBaconator
*Who'dve'st
JHawke
Ironically (namewise) the first game with DLCs was total annihilation, almost prophetic.
Gianttesticlemonster
So the extra fees come from providers not the site itself? So us outside of the USA aren't affected by this?
mardukkur
Any traffic passing through US servers or equipment US companies own could be affected.
JayRee90
I've said this before... when the US sneezes, we catch cold
CrypticRuin
No, if state side providers throttle state side sites because those sites don't pay the speed will be throttled or choked b4 it leaves US
Chpgmr
I wouldn't say they are not completely unaffected by this. No one's sure just how bad it could get.
RamenAndBooze
in canada we have the crtc that's adamantly against it
Gianttesticlemonster
Okay so we're good then? Great to know
RamenAndBooze
Well, until we elect the conservatives again, they were all for it
GapingAnalCavity
If you're in the EU/EEC, this is relevant: http://berec.europa.eu/eng/netneutrality/
Zaranthan
If the US starts doing it, companies in other countries will feel emboldened to try it themselves. No government is immune to 1/
supersomatic
My country already performs non neutral practices. This gives me free social media browsing on mobile, and free emergency calls.
Zaranthan
2/2 millionaires subverting it.
MYNAMEISBOILER
RetardedLobster
MYNAMEISBOILER
Is it people-don't-get-sarcasm-anymore-day again?
krapmyself
Correct. This an United States problem.
ThisDique
Didn't Portugal have their internet gutted and destroyed first though?
Whatdoeswolfsay
For now
Omeguhz
yes some south american country(ies) has what the US is trying to oppose. so the problem could spread.
CrypticRuin
No. Isp's will be able to throttle or choke content providers making state side sites inaccessible unless they pay the ISP.
supersomatic
Any content provider worth getting content from has something called a CDN.
CrypticRuin
They want to control access to ALL internet content. They want to get paid by content providers AND consumers.
supersomatic
yeah, and they twirl their moustaches and laugh really evil-like. Get a grip.
TezuNii
That still makes it an American problem. Why should we care about companies who provide nothing to our respective economies?
Lowlightt
Guess you won't be using Youtube or Google then...
Lowlightt
well that and 80% of the porn sites on the internet are US based.
TheManInTheWall
No, a lot of isps and web services are operated from the US so it will affect other cointries but to a lesser extent
JHawke
Web services yes sometimes.... but ISPs? what does that matter
SoftcoreFavorites
Net Nutrality is built into the Genossenschaftsgesetz in Switzerland. So, basically as if the U.S, had an amendment for net-neutrality.
SoftcoreFavorites
Not to mention that all our providers (SWISScom/Sunrise etc.) are pro Net Neutrality. So, we safe.
TheManInTheWall
That name is giving me reminders of the Bourne identity. Gemeinschaft
legitchrispratt
I'm not suggesting anyone do this and I'm not going to do this. But the "most effective" way to stop this is targeted assassinations.
LordHades187
Nothing is true; everything is permitted
katseiko
I'm quite sure that if that asshat passes this new law, he'll be killed. Probably Kennedy style.
TheFastpaws
Sad but true. If the terrorists really wanted sympathy to keep going. They'd kill these people and the head of the FCC. Sympathy
ensensu
Nah. A more effective way would be to get these people addicted to something.
GoodChange
FartPoweredPogoStick
Wouldn't accomplish anything towards stopping this crap. It's going to happen eventually no matter what you do.
GoodChange
GuyWhoDoesntGetTheJoke
I'm definitely suggesting someone do this.
Splitlicker
Antifa is holding a position for you.
legitchrispratt
Yech. No thanks. Point taken though.
Txtcat
I think that thought is already in process with some people on the net already.
GlassCannon570
No no no, the most effective way is glassing the planet. Then there won’t be an internet to make not neutral.
SoThatsWhere
Careful; saying you wouldn't mind if a political figure is assassinated can get you fired in the USA if your real identify is discovered.
2shy4you
Well thankfully he didn't say that. lol
SoThatsWhere
Yeah, but it's close enough to be construed as such. And once a viral hate wagon gets going, facts and details rarely get in its way.
HD2composer
lol
Ancillary
I like you. You made me very smiley just now.
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Ackes4019
This is the cycle though. They toe the line, until we cant take it anymore. All hell breaks loose, things change, then the cycle repeats.
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Enygma314
I suspect we are going to live and quite possibly die in some very interesting times.
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ThePunishersVengefulBrother
More and more comments on Imgur state similar feelings. I think it's a reflection of the powerless we feel. Ironically, this same feeling 1
Rubium
You can kill a person easily. Greed and lust for power, not so easily.
ErikaLight
Hai FBI
RulesOfImgur
Well..... That is correct, yet we need to keep control of the replacement. We could get someone who is worse.
starrychloe
If you burn a church down, it doesn't automatically make the villagers atheist.
rusrsdude
I.. agree.. to the legal limit.. if there is one.
Zaranthan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra
circlebreaker
*FBI investigation intensifies*
flamingflamingo
Not really. You kill one guy, another fuck just takes his place, and you've created a martyr.
legitchrispratt
Hence the use of the plural.
flamingflamingo
There isn't a finite amount of jackasses
legitchrispratt
True. But said jackassess tend to watch out for their own well being. Hard to recruit for a job with a high mortality rating.
flamingflamingo
That is some fantasy universe you're living in.
ahsheetmapantz
Burn them at the stake because they are clearly witches and i dont like witches, one stole my cat this cannot stand
NoodleManDing
there are two kinds of people
BennyBaggins
And the fact that you consider murdering someone as an option is why we dont deserve nice things as a society.
legitchrispratt
The reality is that politicians threaten all of us collectively on a daily basis with life in prison and death by cop.
2shy4you
You'd have to be willfully ignorant in the extreme to look at it and refuse to acknowledge the option an option. It is what it is.
ThatDeadGuyFromGameOfThrones
vote them out?
StarmineRendezvous
chainedm
FCC Chairman is not an elected position though.
ThatDeadGuyFromGameOfThrones
well then i guess youre fucked. Glad I'm a canadian
Nubasaur
seriously. why cant we find terminally ill or lonely people to do this?! once i get terminal im blowing some shit up!
FilipeNogueira
Talking about going with a bang.
ImSorryFriend
On a related note, I always wonder why people target cops randomly, when there are villainous ones who've gotten away with horrors.
TheRockDude
now this is just a thought, but maybe this is the kind of logic behind a lot of mass shooters that end with self-inflicted gunshots
Nubasaur
mass shooters should start with self inflicted gunshots..
rbudrick
Aaaaand now you're on a list.
OriginalPlam
Want some asbestos?
purpleraptor
WarriorSoul
I didn't know one could be terminally lonely.
ShmoeJoeHoe
https://imgur.com/jqnsJca
TheEmperorOfMankind40000
Just let me know when so I can stay away from the bombs
Warune
Alot of terminally ill start thinking bout judgement so they prolly try not to sin
Sephority
Well... don't blow up anyone innocent I guess?
JoshuaDanielMartin
I always thought contracting cancer would be deadly.
CaptTaka
public domain is probably not the best place to say this, but I can't stop you.
Nubasaur
if they wanna keep on eye on me for years and years im ok with that.
degenerator
Well, according to the new rules, you *could* stop him, if you were terminally ill.
b0Bm3h
Terminally ill thunder dome! Termadome.
DaisukeAramaki
Termadome? Owner of the Termsdale Termadome? I love your Termacones!
IMTHEONEWHOSTOLEALLOFTHECOOKIESFROMTHECOOKIEJAR
We'll just have to make him live forever
SomeRandomArsehole
Or kill him while he’s healthy...
GingersGoRawr
And we're back to the original problem of murder.
magicrhombus
No it isn't, it is the opposite of effective, it just generates sympathy for the jackoffs and swings public opinion their way.
TheGoblinTechies
Not necessarily, if the representatives are not truly representing what at least a large portion of people want their efforts will die too.
IronicUsername
Some corrupt assholes dropping dead isn't going to turn me against net neutrality.
flamingflamingo
Might not turn you, but it will make people for net neutrality seem like extremists.
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flamingflamingo
Why is that a question? Who's turning anyone?
DrKriegersClone
Assassinations only make martyrs. Make 'the left' look bad by killing people, and you only ensure the rest of the conservatives will 1/
killer10347
Believe me, the left is already doing more than enough to make the left look bad. But I'm pretty sure net neutrality is not a partisan thing
DrKriegersClone
/2 double down on passing bad legislation just to spite the radical wing of their opponents.
IronicUsername
You only ensure that if you leave enough left to maintain their majority.
DrKriegersClone
And how do you think the general electorate is going to respond to a partisan effort to change control of the legislature by assassination?
ILiveUnderARock
Probably they would just do whatever this assassin wanted. Or the opposite of what was being done by those that were assassinated.
IronicUsername
I can't speak for the entire electorate but, in my case, with applause.
monadi
My representative is already 100% against this nonsense. I can't just keep calling her office. What else can I do?
HotWings4Life
Sleep with her. Only way to be sure.
rusrsdude
Share to everyone you know to inform them would be one step.
DickMercenary
Call other reps. Make 'em prove you don't live in their state.
godofhorizons
Call other offices
SaltismySugar
Come across millions of dollars to counter-bribe the rest of the corrupt fucks.
flamingflamingo
Same. My senator is Al fuckin Franken. Doesn't get much better than that, for us liberals.
devasto
Throw rocks and yell obscenities
Thesadghost
Hope for the best. I'm in the same boat. With a lack of time to do anything like seeing the representative myself. http://i.imgur.com/65OS7
AwkwardKeming
Do what I do: nothing.
jhawker27
Accept the fact that no matter what the citizenry does the government will continue to fuck us because they're already bought and paid for.
ScoundrelPDX
It really depends on who's running it. People who say Government is Bad tend to Govern Badly.
MixxieMeese
I think mayors can be cool...
kimsahobbit
Start copying down as much as you can from the internets.
SendMePicturesOfYourDog
Call my senator who is for it and ignored my complaints
szABOi
Watch a documentary and get inspired
wiseidiot9
I got a letter from mine, saying he was completely against it. Very cool guy.
HeyThatsMyFetish
Targetted assassinations.
daewookie
bro. be careful w dat
HeyThatsMyFetish
Reference to top comment.
UnassumingAscotCap
Consider yourself lucky, all my reps keep voting for this shit and don't care what their citizenry want
Lord0Trade
call your state senators, or your state reps so if the fcc passes it your state can retroactivly pass net neutrality.
EatTacos
Call another rep.
JonathanHoag
My rep and senators are generally for this bullshit, and every time I contact them about it they send me a form letter about how I'm wrong.
Sparklepop
Are you from MS by chance?
JonathanHoag
GA. Same problem, entrenched red state.
Sparklepop
Oh yeah, that'd explain it. Last time I reached out, I also got a form letter telling me why I was wrong.
eroso
Good work. Keep em coming
Notanotherdamnone
Do you reply with how their logic is wrong?
JonathanHoag
It's a no reply address, they're not interested in hearing it
shmekie
Democracy!
OverpricedCrayon
Same. Email FCC people? I️ can use my dads address in Alabama and spam that douches office (politician, not my dad)
HungryPumpkn
Why not both?
OverpricedCrayon
My dads not a douche most of the time
TheFragnatic
That clarification cracked me up
KaliaGrey
"SON! WHY AM I GETTING LOADS OF LETTERS ABOUT NET NEUTRALITY FROM MY OWN EMAIL ADDRESS?"
DarkSock
Move to Alabama, register to vote
zechs293
And bring a few million of your friends!
Mythrion
Also as an Alabamaian. Please nukenus from orbit. All hope is lost.
CourtWizard
Hey hey, Huntsville/Madison is alright... we just shouldn't be in this state.
MikeMcAwesome91
DrunkAnna
As an Alabamian, please, help us.
theresasquatchinthemwoods
Agreed
DarkSock
As a Mississippian...Bro, we’s all fucked...
MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
Who are these people in Alabama FOR this? And does your Senator not care? Or does he have a cush job lined up when he's voted out?
scnottaken
That little (R) safeguards then from any scrutiny.
zechs293
Plus we are about to vote in a Bible thumping moron to the Senate. Yay us!
DarkSock
Become a money-laden multinational corporation and pump hundreds of thousands of dollars into his campaign coffers...?
dingofdong
As if six figures would even make a dent :(
thereoncewasamanfromnantucket
Word to the wise* You’re going to have to exploit some people or the earth before you get rich enough to have a voice
Kemyo
Get a job at the fcc and move up through their ranks. Then challenge the chairman to roshambo, winner takes all. I believe in you.
monadi
Oh yeah, I'll get right on that. Thank you for the support!
Hyippy
True story I used to say "I'll roshambo you for it, I GO FIRST" to my friend a lot. One time he just said "OK, it'll be worth it to get 1/?
Hyippy
the satisfaction of kicking you in the nuts". I genuinely tried to talk him out of it but no luck. So I kicked him as hard as I could in 2/?
Hyippy
the nuts, immediately fell on the ground shouted "You win" and ran away listening to him screaming while everyone else laughed. 3/3
Hyippy
FYI Yes, we're still friends. Yes, he got me back later when I wasn't paying attention.