Contrary to popular belief, the "human remains" in Pompeii are not petrified bodies, rather, they're made out of plaster that's been poured into the molds that the decayed bodies left in the volcanic ash?

Oct 13, 2023 6:48 AM

Joyika

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store made fossils are fine if you don't have the time for mineralization to happen naturally.

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This is how Tool was created

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Been there and I did not know that

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Why'd they have to pour the plaster ... in it's ass?

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How do they know the person was in there before accidentally ruining the cavity digging around?

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I won't kink shame, but butt chugging cement seems like a bad idea.

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There's so much information I take for granted. I always thought the plaster-filled negatives fact was common knowledge.

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What an ash hole.

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So. Do they still have SKELLINGTONS inside?

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Yes! Or, well, AIUI some do and some don't. http://pompeiisites.org/en/pompeii-map/analysis/the-casts/

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I literally believed they were bodies that were covered in ash and chiseled out using so kind of delicate technique.

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What are you doing, steparcheologist

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You seem to be stuck, I just gonna fill you up.

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Was completely unaware of this

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Going out with a bang!

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And the plaster altered the chemistry of the bones so they could not be tested scientifically.

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Plaster of Perish

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This is true and the faces are all carved out by hand to enhance viewer experience and make the audience relate more to the victims. Harsh but effective! Cavities in the rock are still real tho so

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"Sir, where are you putting that funnel? Sir?!"

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An artist made that decision. They were told to depict this process for educational purposes, had to choose composition and then decided "Yes. Butt funnel."

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Is that title a rhetorical question?

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What happened to the remains of the person's body? It was incinerated by the hot ash which fell around it, but with no outlet, where did the burnt meat go? Are there bones inside these plaster casts. Are there shrunken, mummified bodies inside the plaster casts?

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The burnt meat was eaten by bacteria eventually. Bones can be inside those cavities.

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Could happen again. They have had over 1000 small earthquakes in the Naples area recently. Amazing place. Pompei horse. The brown bits at the head and leg are bone.

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And depending on the conditions and a bunch of other variables, the bones might be gone too. Or they might not be. Lots and lots of variables involved, after all.

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That's...worse, though.

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I was just there in August. One of the coolest places I have ever been, if you have the chance I could not recommend it more!

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and I found the weather so hot. Stay Hydrated!

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They have water taps all over the place there. Not just trying to sell overpriced water.

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A little less than 2000 years ago, it was one of the hottest places.

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Pompeii… so hot right now 🔥

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Some of the plasters do contain the bones of the victims. I saw the exhibit a few years back and the museum staff told us that. You can actually see the skull of one person, absolutely haunting.

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I would assume pretty much all of the casts contain a pile of bones at the bottom.

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I recommend the Fayum portraits for anyone interested in this type of things. They are Roman Egyptian death-masks that consist of panel-paintings that are intended to be life-like depictions of the deceased. Some of them look amazing/realistic & make you realize that there were absolutely master painters in the period, but their works just don't survive. Others almost look surrealist. Wikiart has them all hosted online, I believe.

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e.g. (&excuse my spelling mistakes above, it was very early in the morning)

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Damn, you're not kidding

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Yeah, it really makes me wonder what some of the more impressive paintings patronized by Emperors and Ancient Hellenistic Kings must have looked like. A lot of Roman & Hellenistic mosaics look awesome, but the medium has a harder time with 'realism'... But some of the Fayum Portraits make you take a step back and wonder. Like, the realism here would not be surpassed until the renaissance.

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That's why they don't move or make sounds

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but they make good company. great listeners.

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That's why your robot didn't work

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That's why they don't move or make sounds *often*

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Was going to post the angels. Thank you for doing it already

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Is that a popular belief? I've never encountered it before.

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Me. I thought volcano turned them to stone. Maybe they were replaced with lava idk

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I'll be honest and say that I've never actually thought about it. I've seen the photos and thought as much as: "Impressive that they are that well defined and preserved" but never given much thought to the process.

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Apparently when they first started excavating they would discover hollows, after a bit they realised they were of the people encased in ash so started filling them like moulds to get the "people casts".

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4th grade took a trip there, teacher told us they got covered in ash that solidified on them, kinda like putting on a mud mask. Reason 9854 why I don't trust the government.

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I mean, it is true they were covered in ash which solidified, like putting on a mud mask, but it didn't create a solid form because that would then require it to replace their flesh, which I hope mud masks in your experience also do not do

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I was told this myth by my grandparents as a child and didn't think about it again until decades later when I ran into an internet post like this one.

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when you see the surface of bones in some of the remains, teeth where the lips would be, it's super easy to make the initial assumption that something clung to the bodies and hardened like any fossil in the extraordinary conditions of being buried in superheated ash.

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This just answered a question I had. Thank you.

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Quickly correctable for anybody who seeks to learn more, of course, but those who just take in what they're told and move on, they might not ask the question.

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Technically, casts and molds are a form of fossilization, it's just usually a natural process.

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Guess you just aren't popular, new girl, good luck getting on cheer squad!

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I don’t know what this clip is from and I can’t tell if that’s Margot Robbie or Jamie Pressly

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Jamie Presley, “not another teen movie”

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right in the ash

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Ash to mouth

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Never go ash to mouth

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fill that hole with your plaster

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It’s gonna burn a bit.

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Filling their ash holes

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I did know that.

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And you didn't tell anyone? Asshole.

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“TIAK = Today I Already Knew”

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This was one of the things I was absolutely obsessed about as a child so yes, I knew too.

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And knowing is half the battle.

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The other half is extreme violence.

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I think they told us that as kids in school in canada , maybe I just remeber it because I love history

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I know it now.

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I will know it...

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I've forgotten it already...

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I will have forgotten it soon

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I'll have Will forgetting it.

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So... how come the lava smoke with hot enough to not leave the hands detailed... but the nose and lips made the cut? Can somone explain for I?

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It looks to me as if whoever dug him out added some facial detail

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Someone took artistic freedom.

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I think it's more difficult for the plaster to fill the fingers and toes

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It is an impromptu mould, but we see this in deliberate investment castings all the time.

The features of the face are part of the larger void formed by the head. The fingers are part of smaller voids formed by the hands

Smaller voids are far more prone to getting clogged up with debris in the moulds, blocking the casting material from entering / filling.

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He was a criminal - stole bread. Thus no hands.

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Nooooo!!! Why you go there!

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I'm going to make an uneducated guess, when being instantaneously encased in burning ash hands fuse together while the face has nowhere to go and a lot of more liquid to boil away cooling the ash and allowing for more details. Think of it as cooking a whole turkey, the wings dry out to jerky by the time the breast meat is done.

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Well thats a mental image. :p

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People hide their faces when in danger. It's instinct to help preserve our primary sensory organs and the respiratory tract. So they were more sheltered from the worst of the environmental damage.

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Iconoclast burns the fingers and small details off

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Yes!! Which is why i ask about the lips and nose

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Do you mean pyroclastic flow? Or do you think attacking cherished beliefs or institutions burns your fingers?

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lol

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Yes I do actually think that, human history is evidence of that.

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Too soon!!!

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Usable elsewhere! Zing.

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Yeah I'm not falling for that.

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For the uninitiated.

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First time I saw this I was just high enough to find it so funny that I nearly died.

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A Talus's reaction any time he fights me in TOTK.

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This meme is making me think spicy foods

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He’s done this 47 times!

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Lazuto!

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Hello!

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Sends his regards.... *Gunshots*

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It seems such an obvious meme reaction image yet here I sit. Surprised and aroused.

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Surproused?

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Tony Lazuto says hello 🔫

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